#324

I would suggest some filters. Morphagene responds very nicely to filtering. Parallel filtering is especially nice.

Also, you may not need both Plaits and Pluck. Plaits will do those sounds very nicely.

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#325

Agree strongly with this. Plaits and Pluck are both easily done in software. No real need to put them in hardware unless you really, really want to.

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#326

Thanks for the feedback!
For sure it’s the part of the system where I am less convinced ( plaits + pluck )
I agree with you that they are easy to replicate in sw, but I thought that having them on the system:

  • would give me lots of versatility in small factor ( plaits being capable of not only having a “macro oscilator” but also doing more percussive/drum sounds, having the two outputs, etc… )
  • would give the system the possibility to be used “stand-alone” ( even if it’s not the main purpose ) , because i could have the morpgagenge “Voice” and this two other ( melodic/percusive ) voices…
  • would allow me to have the immediacy of building some kind of textures in which there’s an intricacy between whatever I’m feeding into morphagene, and this two voices ( all modulated with PNW and Maths, may be feed into clouds, etc… ) (Being completely newbie to modular I’m not right here?)
#327

There’s no right or wrong in modular. You can build whatever you want for any reason you choose. I agree with the poster above–build the Morphagene-centric part of the case first: the Morph and a few modulators. Maths and PNW are good choices. I’m not crazy about PNW because I prefer knobs to menus, but it does a lot. Most importantly, it gives you some randomness to feed into the Morph. The Morph likes randomness (well-attenuated).

Buy a handful of modules, learn them in and out. Add to it very slowly. Your goals and interests are guaranteed to change as you learn more and get more experience.

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#328

The Delta-V looks great. I use other features on Maths (offsets, attenuation, mixing) that D-V doesn’t have but the VCAs on D-V seem handy.

I didn’t mean to suggest more modulation/effects necessarily but to focus the instrument on sound mangling/sampling. Prioritizing this task will change which modules you choose and how you use/learn them. That has been very rewarding for me.

And as @ElectricaNada said, no right or wrong in modular. (except for the power cables)

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#329

Most of the time 2nd output is a variation on the first. In terms of percussion it will not give you kick and snare on different outputs. Just two versions of something at the same time.

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#330

The attenuverters are useful and interesting in any system, really! My line of thinking is more so that as a very small case you might get more out of something else (not to cram in a bunch of tiny modules though, that kind of defeats the purpose of getting a tactile hardware interface in the first place haha). I have a Maths in a 7u case, where it doesn’t feel large at all, but in your case next to the PNW it looks relatively huge! You can always get something like the O/A/x2 for attenuverters if you still wanted that, but the magic of Maths is in the way that it mixes things together. A way to get some similar magic from the Delta-V could be to add a Cold Mac to the mix, which will add all kinds of interesting fun to this little system :slight_smile:

As far as learning goes, you can definitely learn modular without a Maths too. I guess learning how to use Maths in many different ways is an intro to “patch programming”, which the Delta-V and Cold Mac would also excel at in a different way, but will teach you just as much if you take the time to learn and experiment with them.

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#331

i had a very similar motivation for getting a starter rack, but i went for nebulae. i had a lot of the same thoughts as you, was initially going to go with maths and pnw but instead, due to the size of my case and the fact that i really wanted rene, i went with 0_C and two of the new Afterlater Audio modules instead. just an alternative perspective that may help. im happy with it

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#332

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This is what i’m doing right now, focused around Morphagene. There is also a mimeophon and another 1u output but they didn’t fit here :slight_smile:

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#333

Is it possible to go out from Morphagene into Mimeophon back into the record inputs of Morphagene and then back into my mixer? This is so i can play the original recorder on a lower octave range and the left side will be the sound processed through Mimeophon.

Thanks!

#334

I’m not sure if this would meet your needs but I’ve using the Doepfer A-182-2 Quad Switches for this kind of thing. Routing audio to different places in an interactive and fast way.

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#336

@discreet-cowboy Haha that’s true. I could loop it through Mimeophon and then back in to record a new splice. I was just trying to avoid spending more money, but adding a W/ is tempting. Have you used one?

#337

Yeah I’d say looping through the Mimeophon and making a new splice is quickest and would still progress in a compositional manner.

I recently picked up a W/ and love bouncing phrases/ideas back and forth between it and the Morphagene. Having 2 creative “tape” machines is a blast.

However, I’m against the GAS trap of “YOU NEED TO BUY MORE TO MAKE BETTER MUSIC.”

The MG and MP are beautiful instruments that can do plenty. W/ only compliments the setup by adding a different workflow and unique feature set (especially with the W/2 update which I admittedly haven’t tried yet).

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#338

I’ve heard mixed reviews on the W/. Does it feel as intuitive as Morphagene to use?

#339

Short answer is no. The 2hp UI cannot possibly provide the same experience as the much larger Morphagene. That said, it has some great tricks up its sleeve (esp with v2 firmware) and greatly rewards those with patience. And small hands and fingers :laughing:

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#340

They cover similar and different ground and can both be as simple as plugging in an input, hitting record, and then looping what you recorded (then overdubbing or depending on the settings recording something completely new). Of course both go much deeper.

Like @yobink said, the Morphagene inherently has an advantage of being much larger- more hands on controls, more modulation inputs, built in attenuverters, stereo. But considering everything W/ can do in only 2hp it’s remarkable.

Morphagene is like having a tape machine with a bunch of shorter (but honestly never feels like it’s that short) reels to chop up and play with, whereas W/ is just one loooooong tape. Even with only 2 modulation inputs, there’s still a bunch to play with. Highly recommend going through some threads here for ideas- especially the W/2 beta thread.

I’d never replace a Morphagene with W/ (not that I think that’s the point) but I love having them together.

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#341

Thanks for the insight. I think I’m going to pull the trigger on one. It’ll be nice to have the option of using them both.

@yobink Good thing I have small hands lol

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#342

Does anyone have some tips on doing time stretching in the Morphagene?
I grasp the concept, I think, but I’m not getting what I am expecting. I have a vocal sample on a reel and I want the pitch to stay the same, but just stretch it out. I have a gate from PNW multed to the gate and play inputs of morphagene. It is a relatively slow clock, but it doesn’t seem to do much stretching with the Morph knob in around 12 or 1. Above that it goe sinto light blue territory and adds in random pitch shifts, which I don’t currently want.

If I make the clock slower, MF seems to lose track of it and it goes into the orange and red settings.

Any of that make sense?
I just want to play a sample sllooooowwwwwer.

#343

A few ways to do this:

  1. With a pulse into the clock in, morph above 10:30, and gene size anywhere but minimum, changing the the clock pulse rate will time stretch
  2. With no clock in, morph above 10:30, and non-zero gene size, a ramp wave into slide should scrub through the splice without changing pitch
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#344

Thanks.
Do I need a trigger into Play at the same time?
And do you have a sense of what is happening in the blue zones?