#46

The C0 is a convolution effect, so it will only alter sounds, not produce them. As far as what you can do with convolution, there’s a lot, so you’d want to read or watch some things about that process in general. But one thing to keep in mind with the C0 is that the samples it can load to apply its effect have to be very short, so it’s not as flexible as what you’d be able to do in a DAW based convolver.

I wouldn’t say the D0 can be a voice on its own either. While it can be made into an oscillator, there’s not much variation in tone available from it, and it’s incredibly annoying to tune without using a MIDI adapter. It’s a great delay though, and even better (in my opinion) as a physical modeling tool.

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#47

Thank you for the answer.

I’ve done some IR before, even tried kilchofer method that he used on the trumpet track of shaping the eq and sending the “ping” through it but all was done on software.
Also, I thought you could get it in a feedback loop and produce sound from it.

I’m quite lost on D0 being a physical modelling tool but not a voice.
Isn’t the sound being produced by the feedback of the module and the pitch controlled by the delay time?

#48

Oh, yes that’s how it works, I think I just misread your comment and thought you were asking if either module might be used as a voice on its own, in addition to being used as part of a physical model voice.

I don’t have a c0 so I can’t say what it’s able to do on its own when you self-patch it. I’d be interested to hear it though–I imagine it could be pretty cool.

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#49

Does anyone know how long the IR’s the c0v2 will take?

#50

the c0 has two functions, either the convolution effect or without loaded IR it’s a digital bbd delay, sounds really really nice as delay, and it can be so short, you can also use it for feedback patches, karplus strong etc, it’s just not as clean as the d0.
as convolution module it’s limited due to the short IR time, but it can be used as crude sample player, just ping the loaded sample (which is again really short but works for percussion hits).
the absolutely unique feature of the c0 is the real time frequency change of the IR, as far as i know that’s not possible with any convolution software.
if you haven’t tried any mungo module i would strongly suggest to find someone to try it before you buy it, so many people couldn’t handle the unique and idiosyncratic interface with its zoom control…

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#51

Lose 2HP with this one weird trick! (Doctors hate it)

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The Zoom switch fits quite nicely. To replicate, drill a 1/4" hole 0.735" from the top edge and 0.500" from the left.

Now that I’ve performed plastic surgery on the d0, it seems like it’s paying me back by performing brain surgery on me…

A question: Does anyone know whether the DC cut setting is remembered upon startup?

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#52

High five. Mine is not so pretty, but I’m happy nevertheless that at least everything fits. I’ve scanned the panel with regular MFP, traced the result in Illustrator, and then used the PCB milling machine to cut the panel from the piece of plastic-metal-plastic composite material:

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#53

Is it possible to get 2 voices out of 1 D0 going, using two different feedback paths with delay A and B, both tracking through the cv input?

#54

yes, it’s a dual delay :slight_smile:
but then you have to patch both feedback paths outside with mixers.
the clock input is for both delays, so if you want independant control over both delays you have to use
the cv inputs.

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#55

You would be patching the exciter say, noise +5v --> vca <–envelope. You’re taking the signal from the vca into the A input in each of the feedback paths established on MIA right?

#56

A point of confusion which I experienced: the delays don’t track 1 V/octave unless you have the CV attenuverter set just right. In the user guide John explains that the CV is “scaled in V/octave” but elsewhere he specifies that it’s not necessarily one volt per octave.

#57

ah, you’re talking about karplus strong, feedback sounds. i thought you meant normal simple dual delay. ja, the path would be the same, the exciter signal coming into channel a of mia, the feedback into channel b and the ab output into one of d0 inputs. good thing about mia is that you can invert the signal which is again really good for short delays, eg karplus strong.
here’s an ancient short demo where i patched the d0 like this:

from min. 1:20 you hear it as dual voice in karplus strong mode.

@desolationjones yes exactly, the tracking is v/octave, but since it has a attenuator you have to dial in the exact 1v/oct setting which is quite a pita… i have a storage strip and have saved the d0 in a dual 1v/oct setting for exactly this.

#58

The save bus can recall attenuverter settings?! I thought it just recalled the position of the offsets.

#59

no, all knob settings are saved.

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#60

Oh that is significantly better than I had hoped for. I thought they were fully analog controls.

Does this mean that you can zoom those knobs? And the gain/feedback knob?? That would explain why my A channel is so much quieter than my B.

#61

I emailed John a couple of days ago and he said the exact same thing. He actually referred saving the 1v/oct settings as a quite useful feature of preset recall.

Good thing I bought an MIA, frees up so much shit around the module. Best bang for the buck mixer/utility I have.

#62

yes, zoom works for all knobs! the gain knob for channel a has actually massive gain, channel a is always way louder here because of that, so be careful with that knob plus zoom. and don’t forget, it is bipolar!

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#63

mia is such a useful module for such patches, i have three of them :slight_smile:

#64

Question, I just received my d0 and the adapter and they both come in these anti-static bags I’ve never receive a module on, is there are special care I need to have with the modules after taking them out?

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#65

From what I’ve read, Mungo modules may be more susceptible to static damage than others. You’ll want to make sure you only touch the faceplate of the module, and not the components on the PCB unless you’re sure you’re grounded.

Technically though, all modules ought to be handled the same way. Chances of static damage aren’t very high most of the time, but if it happens then you’re looking at repair or replacement costs. It always makes me wince when I see people gripping the backside of a module in their for sale posts.

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