#195

Have seen on ebay too. There is one for sale now in fact…

#196

I agree 100%.

It’s functionality to hp ratio is incredibly high; I think it is perfectly proportioned.

No sausage fingers here, and I’ve found the trimmer pots seem like a great idea, but as soon as you’ve got a lot of patch cables plugged in they can become a little cumbersome (they are better for ‘set and forget’ parameters IMO).

Either way I hope you get your hands on one; it is an inspirational module :+1:

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#197

@mmpingo I’m with |thacus. I’ve bought, sold it, and bought it again. It’s a very high value for the HP if you’re using both halves. You’ll likely want an external knob(s) with Cara, which sort of defeats the purpose in a lot of ways? There are a few set it and forget it uses, but Marbles asks to be hands on.

I’ve considered Cara a lot of times to save HP, but I’m not convinced it’s worth it. I’ve you haven’t owned Marbles, I can’t recommend getting the full size version first enough - even outside of live use.

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#198

Plus, the rubberized knobs on the MI modules give a completely other way of interacting, much more natural and and precise than squeezing a tiny plastic shaft between your fingertips.

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#199

Thinking about this further it would be an incredibly useful module.

There are plenty of quantizers, but there appear to be few multichannel quantizers that provide control over transpose.

Having something that can quantize multiple channels, but also provide gated transposition/transformations etc. would be incredible.

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#200

I’d love this in 2hp so much! Transposition is something that I’m always trying to do, but find so cumbersome that I usually forgo it and spend more time on modulation. I’m running hemisphere on my o_C now, but I’ve yet to try the https://github.com/Chysn/O_C-HemisphereSuite/wiki/Squanch---Shifting-Quantizer

You should be able to run 2 copies, one in each hemisphere! for at least a little multichannel transposition + marbles fun.

Maybe I’ll give this a go and report back this evening.

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#201

the WK1 in Aroom’s mode can handle transposition for 3 voices in 2 hp:

http://leipzigwest.org/?page_id=39

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#202

Ah looks cool aroom, but I don’t think it offers Diatonic transposition (so would still require external quantizers).

Combined multichannel quantize and transpose modules seem to be really rare (the ADDAC module seems closest but I’ve heard it is finicky to use).

Another neat trick would be ‘jumbling’ of voltages prior to quantization, which would give a sort of ‘randomized melody’ transform.

If transpose and transform were gated they would be a really nifty performance option.

I’m sure this is all possible with independent modules, but I’m not sure of anything that offers all of this in one convenient package (to niche I would think).

#203

Teletype could do this :thinking:, although only for one input sequence (or Ansible app) without a Txi

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#204

Ah pardon my ignorance… I thought Teletype only dealt with trigger ins… that is very interesting!

Got me thinking now :sparkles::

Could I have 4 output sequences sourced from the 1 input sequence, with the 4 output sequences notes independently triggered (S+H) from the main melody, and then ‘transformed’ in some manner using the Param knob?

Transpose could be a preset value/voltage (selected at different intervals using some of the 8 trigger ins).

For transform I am thinking a modulo operation on the input sequence voltage (to retain the octave) and then just rearrange the notes against a lookup table (eg. C2 is jumbled to F2 etc.), with param selecting different tables, would be a neat ‘melody jumbler’ if implemented pre-quantisation.

If that could be done on the Teletype, with quantization of the output sequences… then I think I need to readdress my setup :grinning:

P.S. Apologies for now going totally off topic!

#205

yes, absolutely! It would take a bit of scripting to set up, but all of that is possible out of the box with Teletype and a CV source! I’d be happy to chat through getting it all together over on one of the Teletype threads if you do go that route. :slightly_smiling_face:

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#206

A patch I wired up a few days ago did essentially this:

It’s a Tuesday sequence that Marbles is adding to via Squanch. Siimlarly:

That one is using an envelope from Zadar through Squanch to offset a TSNM sequence. (The envelope is being retriggered, so the pattern repeats without only small variations due to the way Zadar’s retrig behaviour works - which I happen to like.) Using Zadar that was is tricky though. Most envelopes are hard to tune to act as a pleasant offset.

Marbles on the other hand is essentially designed for this! It works quite well - although I persistently wish it had a reset input. It’s definitely returning to my case as my experiments progress. Probably next case revision.

#207

A question for all heavy Marbles users: do you also have Wogglebug in your racks? Aren’t those modules redundant?

#208

Marbles and Wogglebug, while having many similar features (they input & sample, or generate, CV output of various flavors, including gates and clock) they do so in different ways. depending on how you use them, one may make the other redundant. I had a Wogglebug, I have a Marbles. I prefer Marbles for many reasons, and sold Woggle bc hp and $$$ is nice, but where those things not a consideration, they are certainly work together.

I’m sure an even cursory survey of their manuals and various demo and tutorial videos could articulate the differences for you.

edit: some really bad grammar up there sorry

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#210

Wogglebug is definitely the more straightforward approach. Used to have a Marbles, but now use a Woggle, mostly because I decided to commit to the Make Noise aesthetic and ecosystem, but I enjoy the experience of using Woggle. The audio outputs are underrated for use as FM and audio-rate-modulation stuff when attenuated

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#211

Adding to the chorus that they’re very different modules. Wogglebug had some neat features but I didn’t personally like it that much for random usage or as an audio source. I wound up using it as a clock source sometimes, and (more rarely) as a way to alter envelope CVs with little to no randomness dialed in.

But Marbles changed my mind about random modules :slight_smile: Useful gate streams, “smart” following of clock patterns, quantizable CVs with a Turing Macine-like way to dial in randomness vs. repetition, control over the distribution of values, ability to sample incoming CVs… it’s just very powerful and musical.

I have only experimented with a scope and not in a musical context yet, but I think Joranalogue Filter 8 is going to give me some of the envelope-altering goodness I liked with Wogglebug.

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#212

I use Marbles pretty much as “an extension” of my main sequencer (Digitakt). I can quickly fill in some randomness in the patterns both melodically and rhytmically, and move on the line between strict preprepared stuff and guiding the machine with randomness. I’ve been thinking about getting something like a Wogglebug or other more traditional random source for modulation purposes, but I don’t think it and Marbles would clash that much in my use at least.

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#213

How do you connect Digitakt with your rack?

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#214

I’ve probably posted this thought before but Marbles really does great work paired with another clock/rhythm source/sequencer/etc.

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#215

I’m selling both my Wogglebug and Zularic Repetitor right now. I love clocking the Marbles with the Zularic but I’m also about to get the Digitone so I’ll probably end up clocking the Marbles with that.