#258

From the Mutable forum:

Q: Remaining releases?
A: Two, which have new, unique names (these are not “upgrades” sharing the same name as the module they replace).

And yeah, I do expect both of these are similar to the Braids->Plaits evolution: more functionality in some areas, but a more elegant and focused UX. Compact enough so that people have less tendency to seek out shrunken clones, without being cramped.

What is the source of the “Birds” thing? Twitter, Reddit, some other place I don’t normally go?

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#259

A random exclamation of the word ‘BIRDS!?!??!’ in the Clouds Successor thread from the oracle herself.

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#260
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#261
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#262

20 characters of love electrelane

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#263

Now I’m thinking of the Crow thread :wink:

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#264

the cascading cv inputs from the Intellijel Quad is still a big plus

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#265

As is the bigger knob for the level (as opposed to an offset pot). Definitely an interesting layout, but my quad vca is not going anywhere.

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#266

I have tried many different layouts (there were 6 revisions before that one).

A common use case for me is to have sources which have modulations (say from an envelope or LFO), mixed with sources which have no modulations.

With the Intellijel Quad, the loudness of the modulated sources has to be adjusted by their CV amount pot (the small one), and the loudness of the unmodulated sources has to be adjusted by their LEVEL pot (the large one).

It boils down to this: if you want to make an enveloped sound louder or softer, you won’t do this by offseting the envelope, but by increasing or decreasing the amount of this envelope.

This is why I normal the CV inputs with a constant voltage (instead of cascading the CV of the previous channel), and also why I use the larger control (here the slider) for the CV amount. With that layout, the level of a source, modulated or unmodulated, is always adjusted by the slider.

It’s a matter of affordance - the 4 sliders make the module obviously look like a mixer. It’d better behave as much as possible like one.

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#267

Am I understanding it correctly that the offset is there to let you use a bipolar LFO as a Unipolar? (or add a drone base level to an envelope) but you can’t subtract offset, correct?

#268

Yes, that’s the main use case for this control.

Yes. If the offset control was bipolar, it would be more difficult to adjust it to the default setting, which is 0.000V (and not -0.1V or +0.1V). A slight positive offset causes annoying “bleed”, a slight negative offset causes an annoying delay of an envelope attack phase (especially if this attack is slow).

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#269

Is the offset summed to the input CV before the CV is attenuated by the slider? It seems that would be the case, given the intended use. This is of course different from the Intellijel µVCA or QuadVCA where the level / bias control is summed with the input CV after attenuation.

#270

Hi there,

I just wanted to drop in and say that I would love to see an official Mutable Instruments system!

Have just finished putting together my first modular (a Shared System) and find the ‘wholeness’ of single maker systems fascinating as a representation of the designer’s musical and ergonomic philosophy.

I love the Make Noise old-school Electronic Music vibe, though Mutable has that lovely modern cosy organic quality which I’m missing.

I’m just too indecisive to customise a system!

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#271

The offset is applied after attenuation.

#272

I love the new layout émilie.
It’s the kind of thing that makes my brain happy.

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#273

does anyone have opinions about using blinds as a vca/mixer thing ? I like the added possibilities on top of what veils has + don’t feel like I would mind a bit of interface weirdness in that use case, assuming it’s workable

#274

I don’t have experience with blinds but the large amount of gain veils allows by turning towards exponential mode…I personally find this indispensable because I do a lot of modular with other stuff kind of work. I also like being able to shape how an envelope responds with that knob to get the feel right.

99% of the time I use quadratts for attenuversion (shades/triatt are basically the same in 3u) and control voltage mixing and scaling, and then veils for audio purposes I find this works really well for me.

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#275

same here probably - but I’ll have a couple preamps in the case - so - maybe I’ll live. easy to switch out if ye mind changes later on (& I think envelope shapes can happen earlier down the chain for the most part)

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#276

Yep definitely. I do enjoy having control at both points…but it’s not necessary

#277

Yarns seems to be discontinued now. Might be one of the 2 with a new name? :frowning: