#148

I think it’d work well. You’d probably also want a Shades or Blinds for offset and attenuation, if you don’t have that covered.

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#149

I’d +1 @Starthief’s rec for something like Shades. Tides is fantastic at wonky LFO shapes (self patching via Shades is how I did it - you can definitely get some woozy modulation in a tangle with Stages) and at modulation rates the hi/lo outs can push things in Stages.

#150

About Stages, is there internal amplitude control or is an attenuverter necessary for that?

#151

also check the Stages thread here there are a good grip of ideas posted pretty clearly. the Shift Register thread just “made me” rip up my patch and make Stages the mid-point in a 13-stage shift register. lots to do.

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#152

Don’t sleep on this https://zlobmodular.com/skew-fade-lfo/

#153

There’s no amplitude control on Stages, so you’ll need attenuation.

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#155

Wouldn’t a Hold segment between let’s say two ramps determine the function’s amplitude via the slider?!

#156

Yes, if you use a 3-stage gated envelope. Not if you use a 4-stage ADSR, 1-stage LFO, etc.

#157

I think it’s the same for both looping and not looping Hold segment, otherwise yeah you’re correct, i only had AD/AR in mind.

#158

New Tides! Intriguing

https://mutable-instruments.net/modules/tides/

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#159

There’s a new, 2018 version of Tides just announced.

– More power, 16-bit 7.8khz inputs, internal floats.
– Attenuverters for everything.
– Clock input doesn’t require a separate PLL mode, it just works.
– No Freeze.
– The main waveform is unipolar for AD/AR, bipolar for cycling.
– 4 outputs, 4 output modes:
---- Shape, similar to the original Tides but with an asymmetrical triangle output.
---- Amplitude, which crossfades the waveform smoothly across the four outputs.
---- Time, which phase-shifts cycling mode and applies differing slopes to AD/AR modes.
---- Frequency, which outputs different frequencies (for polyrhythmic LFOs or just-intonation chords)

I gave up my Tides after I had Plaits, but ̶I̶ ̶a̶m̶ ̶s̶e̶r̶i̶o̶u̶s̶l̶y̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶n̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶b̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶m̶a̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶s̶p̶a̶c̶e̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶n̶e̶w̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶ just preordered the 2018 version and now I have to make some space

Edit: I see I wasn’t first with this :smiley:

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#160

Huh. I was just talking about how much Tides v1 didn’t click for me. :laughing:

The output modes seem like a nice addition, though now it overlaps even more with Just Friends. Some really good additions though!

I am now disappointed that I held onto my V1 for so long trying to like it. :money_with_wings:

I hope Frames and Grids get an update eventually. A smaller Frames would be very welcome, and I love my Grids but it feels like a much earlier module. I’m sure a newer cpu could unlock some new tricks as well.

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#161

I thought Marbles was the Grids update, what other things would they add?

#162

Marbles has a little overlap with Grids, but I’ve had both simulatenously, and I didn’t feel owning one had any bearing on my owning the other. Similar to how owning Plaits isn’t a substitute for owning a Rings or Tides, and how Rings isn’t a substitute for Elements. The X section can do some Grids-like stuff, but has nowhere near the same rhythmic versistility.

As far as improvements, the external clocking for Grids could be better. The panel layout could use a makeover, and I’m also sure Olivier would have some new insights of how to get more out of it. Front panel mode control would be nice. A third mode inaddition to Euclidean would be neat. I can imagine lots of things.

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#163

Marbles is not an upgrade of anything. Grids is still in production, but I agree that in terms of design it’s getting a bit dated. I have more urgent things to do, though :slight_smile:

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#164

Was a big fan of the original Tides, and the new design seems perfect on the face of it. Very consistent with Marbles/Plaits/Stages in terms of design, impeccable work there. Can’t wait to try it.

I’ll definitely keep my original Tides though!

Do we have a sense of what to expect next from MI, besides the hyped Clouds successor?

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#165

Just pre-ordered the new Tides at Cymru Beats. I promised myslef no more modules this year, but this looks like another MI home run!

The Just Friends method of related envelopes/oscillators from a shared set of controls is ingenious, so I’m so glad to see this has worked it’s way into the new tides :+1:

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#166

I’ve had a similar experience, trying to gel with Tides v1 forever and just not loving it.

FYI there’s an 8hp off-brand version of Frames called Plancks!

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#167

Planks is tempting. I’m building a Yaksha’s Fate (ST Modular’s 8hp Rings) soon.
Just got my PCB’s for it today. :sparkles:

If you end up with a Tides v2, I’d be curious to get your take. :raised_hand:

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#168

I thoroughly clicked with Tides (custom knobs helps) and use it exclusively as an envelope/LFO.
The only challenge I’ve experienced was making use of the the high and low outputs. Perhaps it’s a calibration issue, but on my unit, high tides is always high.

Although I’ve been underwhelmed by other 2018 MI releases, I am excited for this one (pre-ordered).

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