#160

env -> trig or cv -> morph?

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#161

I have a mangrove and plaits in a small case I’ve been using recently and they compliment each other very well. In fact I’ve had trouble previously with mangrove not playing nicely with other oscillators but not plaits. The FM mode and harmonic oscillator modes and most of the noise modes sound particularly nice with mangrove grittiness

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#162

Interesting… I had a Mangrove briefly, and while I thought it was lovely I didn’t feel like it worked as well with other VCOs as I was used to. I also feel like Plaits is more of a standalone module, except for being an excellent source for Rings.

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#163

In this un-cutted/un-edited jam, I used Plaits and Mangrove:

Plaits is used in chord mode, with chords modulated by voltage block (no pitch change) and Mangrove is the bass line.

Mangrove can be used as a standalone module, Air acting as a VCA. Mangrove really shines when modulated. It’s a wonderful module, you can get a lot from it.

Plaits and Mangrove complement one another really well, but they have a different approach.

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#164

Dang. That is pretty! Your “uncut” jams beat mine on orders of magnitude. :wink: I’d be curious to see your ModularGrid if you can link me! I’d be curious if you can remember any other patch notes. You have some dope transitions in there!

So I’ve been using a modified version of the drum routing script for Teletype posted elsewhere. A single Plaits can handle solo drum duties really nicely! That said I kinda want to free up Teletype to do other stuff.

Does anyone have any thoughts on a super-compact means to send along the 3 preset CV values for Mode changes on trigger? Plaits also needs a slight delay on that trigger to allow it time to Mode shift. Has anyone else tried this with other hardware?

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#165

@grey have you considered a TXo expander? It’s a good way to get some more outputs out of teletype plus they have some unique features not present in the on-board outs (can be used as oscillators, can send out negative CV). There looks to be a run that will be available in the near future (see this thread)

Really appreciate the advice and information (and really enjoyed your track @aroom). I had someone contact me privately about a Plaits/Mangrove swap and I’m coordinating details, so I should be able to see for myself shortly!

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#166

I’ve got a TXi; waiting for a TXo. :relaxed: I’m happy with how it works as is, but adding more I/O won’t reduce the ever precious scripting space!

#167

Thanks guys for the kind words. Here’s the patch note I included with the track:

Mutable Instruments Plaits in chords mode being modulated by voltage block. Ultra Random Analog thru Three Sisters and Erbeverb for the droplets effect. Bass by Mangrove, modulated by Peaks envelop and LPZW WK2. Some random bell notes by Just Friends fm’ed by E350 thru the tape echo from Disting MK4. Kick by BIA, snare by Rings, hats by URA with noise thru Streams.

That’s my system:

I recently swop the E350 for a 2hp OSC (was principally using the Sine anyway) and Stages is on his way and wasn’t used in the aforementioned track.

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#168

A fellow lines member messaged me and we did a Mangrove/Plaits trade. I’m having a lot of fun with Mangrove so far. Here’s a patch that uses Mangrove for bass, Rings for the higher strings, and Plaits/Warps/Humpback for the weird cloud of plucky stuff. I think Mangrove compliments the other modules well and adds a new, growly dimension to my rack!

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#169

Thanks for sharing this. I just bought a Mangrove, and have a Plaits waiting to ship. Despite being extremely anxious now, I thoroughly enjoyed this.

#170

Did the track make you extremely anxious? I hope not. :anguished:

Here’s another un-cutted/edited track with the pair Plaits/Mangrove. Plaits in chord mode as well.

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#171

Yes, extremely anxious for Plaits and Mangrove to show up on my front porch :smile:

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#172

traded in my mangrove for a plaits, and so far really enjoying it. mangrove had a wonderfully unique and focused personality and i love the design, but for the music I make it felt like I was always sort of fighting the sound, it was frequently too…angular and chiptune sounding for what I was going for.

but onto Plaits- there’s almost too much fertile ground to explore…

Having the Tides oscillator back is a joy, because it is a really pleasing sound that I could never quite get anywhere else, especially when put through a vactrol.

The FM mode is also super useful and immediate and can get some exceptional mellow bell tones really quickly.

The formant oscillator sounds excellent as well, and as one might assume, can actually sound quite a bit like Mangrove when set right, but even that mode alone I’m finding more flexible sonically than Mangrove, just not quite as thick as the real analog deal, esp with the Air control. A tradeoff I’m willing to accept for the time being.

The wavetable mode also has a very useful array of warm FM-type sounds that I love, great for drones, especially with some gentle modulation using the interpolated mode, crossfading between similar adjacent waveforms in the table.

Chord mode is pretty special, as everyone else has also realized, especially at that organ-like setting, another drone machine with modulation to the timbre control.

The filtered noise is obviously exceptionally useful for use with Rings, and the particle noise is an immediately pleasing sound with a great plucky resonance to it.

And the last of my favorites, the kick drum, surprisingly thick- put up against an analog kick, I’m not sure I could identify which is which, it really does sound good. And the controls give a great amount of flexibility to the sound- PLUS the aux input gives a slightly different flavor with it’s own response to the controls. Panned left and right you can get some pretty massive sounds.

All in all very thankful for Olivier and his designs, I think this recent trio of modules are his best three modules yet and demonstrate a further honing and design maturity to go along with his talent as a creator of these little instruments. Can’t wait to see what else is on the horizon.

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#174

I think that both the formant mode and mangrove work super well together. Plaits can really “smooth” out while Mangrove has more weight at tamer settings. I really like the pitch stuff you can do with messing with barrel/formant (and especially the weird in-between stuff you get when things aren’t quite to the next pitch). Droning on together panned left and right is a lot of fun.

I’ve found one thing that helps with Mangrove is running it through a filter to “complete” the voice and for taming. I feel like I do this less with Plaits.

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#175

Not sure why those comments regarding Plaits criticism were just taken down, even if the points were unfavorable/unpopular I was interested in the perspective. Can someone tell me why they were removed?

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#176

I was not the mod who moved/merged, but it looks like those comments were kept intact and transported over to Mutable Instruments modules: design, usability, theory, philosophy, etc, since they extended past Plaits and into MI’s general approach. the chain icon above your post is a quick low-key indicator of a topic split/merge/general move-around.

(also, thank you for asking! this clarifies a sincere need to help make these moves more visible)

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#177

Well, since i rambled and those comments got migrated to the MI interface thread, I’ll repost what was really key to this thread:

PARTICAL NOISE IS AWESOME! Finding many uses for it around my system. Like the best multi mode modules, i could likely leave it in just this mode and have a second for other uses.

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#178

Well, i went ahead and bought one… should arrive next week.

#179

I wish it was somehow possible to run something like the noise modes out of the AUX when in another mode. Would introduce some fun self-patching opportunities!

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#180

That would be really cool. I’m going to try that using the disting recorder