#250

Though solid, I have experienced many sublimation issues with mine, as it seems to put me in a consistently sublime mood due to its elegant design and utility density.

Anyone else use the red mode just to assign a slider to another cv input for better control? Especially great for any micro modules with tiny pots.

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#251

Yeah no issues whatsoever. Only minor thing that bothers me is that if you set an LFO with a trigger into it to set the rate and have a free-running LFO to the right of it, it affects that LFO. So sometimes I have to repatch shit to conform to this right to left mentality. But no big deal.

#252

Stages has only two weaknesses from my experience: I really disliked using it for voice envelopes. I found the timings felt extremely fragile/unintuitive for adjustments. Additionally, as you’ve noted, repatching when you have it doing multiple things is pretty common when building up a patch – and also kind of a drag. I don’t think it suits live case purposes, but it does so much that it’s a module I find incredibly easy to recommend to people. My percieved limitations seem like things you can over come in time.

#253

this is also my only real fuss with Stages - and I like Peaks AD/R for voice envelopes so ¯_(ツ)_/¯ I guess?

entirely too much utility to leave my case tho! “I need a X” is often resolved with mild patch reorganization so Stages can handle it.

#254

I find that to be the weird irony of the module given that so much of what the modules is pitched as is an envelope generator. That said, everything else it does is great. It’s a solid sequencer. Sample and hold with slew is great. Clockable LFO’s with morphable waveshapes are dope. I gets weird when you cram audiorate stuff into it, which is fun. It’s otherwise a perfect module.

I did end up selling mine. I’ve picked up a Quadrax, and while I am still getting to know it, I like it so far. That said, I do reconsidering picking one up again with frequency.

#255

Hmm, I never understood the dislike for Stages as an envelope generator. I am playing with a patch right now, and just swapped from a Maths semi-exponential decay envelope to Stages with no fuss.

But then, I felt the same way about Mini Slew and Rampage when I tried them – loved a lot of the features, but dialing in envelopes with them just did not feel right compared to Function, Maths or Contour. (Or Stages… heh)

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#256

I’ve never noticed anything weird about the envelope generation on Stages. I find I like better than Maths for triggering some filters and LPG’s and sometimes Maths works better. It depends on the effect I’m going for.

#257

lately I’ve been using Slew S/H mode with gates as another flavor of envelope. I also appreciate toggling between modes for rhythmic variety

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#258

If you’re using Stages as an audio envelope it helps a lot to be using an exponential VCA, as Stages’ envelopes are not particularly sharp by themselves.

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#259

part of why i chimed about the envelopes thing is that I, having done no scientific observation of this, think it is comically arbitrary. I happily use Peaks for amplitude envelopes, I’m using the D & AD pair to feed Let’s Splosh, which in turn is opening VCAs and LPGs.

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#260

S&H question, how long can the slew go?

#262

Stumbled upon this (unofficial) tweaked firmware for Stages, just wanted to share it here for those who haven’t seen it.

A modified multi-mode firmware for Stages. It started as a modification to let you enter and exit the “ouroboros” mode (the harmonic oscillator easter egg) at runtime, while the module is powered on. Then, it evolved adding the ability to enable slower free-running LFOs and a completely alternative mode that transforms the module into six identical DAHDSR envelope generators .

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#263

This is the version I’m running now. Being able to select fast or slow LFOs within the same firmware is nice, and 6xDAHDSR mode is handy thanks to the buttons acting as manual gates. :slight_smile:

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#264

What’s the difference between six identical EGs and one EG multed six times?

#265

What’s the difference between six identical EGs and one EG multed six times?

The gate input! Each EG is identical regarding phases duration and levels, but can be triggered independently from the others, with its own gate input.

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#266

Author here. Thanks for reporting, but please change the release link in your post (if possible) to https://github.com/joeSeggiola/eurorack/releases/latest, so it always points to the latest version!

In fact, I just released an update that fixes multi-mode switch to avoid unwanted segment loop toggle, and uses independent permanent storage for segments configuration and harmonic oscillator waveform selection.

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#267

Ah thanks, I get it now. That is super useful.

#268

Noted and done! Killer firmware, thanks for taking the time and sharing with everyone!

#269

Just got to try the alt firmware out. No brainer. Thank you very much for this!

Curious how people are using the harmonic osc modes. Having a little fun with (attenuated) self patching outputs into time/level inputs but not getting anything especially interesting - or at least not as immediately satisfying as just playing with the knobs and sliders manually.

edit: Ok, adding an lfo with the modulating vco signal is helping things along :wink:

#270

Hey everybody,

Stages is currently my favorite module. It’s so deep and offers rewards for exploring. I want to share some generative strategies I found:

End of Stage Trigger

An important function for all sort of generativ patch is the End of Stage trigger for function and envelope generators. You can achieve an End of Stage trigger by setting the last segment to red and using its output to trigger. Even the lowest level setting and shortest duration is enough to trigger other segments in stages. It may work with other modules but your mileage may vary. The level and delay setting may used as additional sculpting tools.

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Red => Gate Input
Green => Envelope Out
Yellow => End of Stages Trigger
Pink => optional looping

Krell Center

Using the above end of stage trigger, Stages can become the center of your krell like patch. It provides a random length AD function for volume and a random value in sync for pitch.

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The the red cables should be connected to random sources green are for self patching (the one leading to nothing is a dummy cable) and yellow are the outs for pitch and volume.
The pink bracket should be looping.

Patch in Table Form

/ Poti Light Slid In Gate Out
1 CCW Yello Down Ran Out6 ToPitch
2 CCW Yello Down Ran2 Out6 In4
3 CCW Yello Down Ran3 Out6 In5
4 play! GLoop play! Out2 Dummy ToVCA
5 play! Green play! Out3 ——————-
6 CCW RLoop Down ————-Gate123

I would love to hear what you all think about this.

I might do a few more of these and think about compiling them into a Stages study document.

Edit: I just rewatched DivKids Stages Tutorial and realized that I got the End of Stages Trigger technic from him. I don’t want to give the false impression that I invented that.

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