#271

Anyone tried the alt firmware with multiple stages connected together?

#272

yes! thank you for these. that krell patch is awesome. definitely my favorite module as well. would love to see some more :slight_smile:

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#273

Yep, I am running the multi-mode Stages firmware with two linked Stages. What I found is this:

  • You can always switch the leftmost Stages into any mode with no problems.

  • If you plug something into Gate 1 on a module before you switch its mode, everything will be fine. (This breaks any dependencies the leftward module might have.)

  • If a Stages in Segment Generator mode has a group that spans to the next Stages on its right, switching the rightward module to 6xDAHDSR or HO mode will freeze the button states on the leftward module(s) as well as confuse the values that it outputs. Switching the rightward module back to Segment Generator mode will return everything to normal.

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#274

Finally got around to try @joeSeggiola s firmware and it is awesome. The harmonic osc with switched controls is a great Idea.

Also I discovered that the green single segment looping mode tracks V/O perfectly and is in tune when the slider is all the way up. Sounds decent and there is a trapezoid waveform. Alternatively a square VCO into the Gate input kinda works (some audible pops occurs) and offers cv over octave selection.

Unfortunately Stages with the current firmware seems to be unable to produce subharmonics due to the envelope retriggering behavior.

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#275

This thread is starting to get cobwebs :sweat_smile:

But there is exiting news. This week qiemem released the 1.0 version of his alt. firmware for stages.

Link to release

Link to Readme

Cool stuff in short:

  • Random Segment with Turing Machine, logistic map, smooth and stepped random and noise
  • Quantizer for the yellow segment
  • Maths like slew with different attack and decay slew rate
  • Optional bipolar outputs for each segment
  • More control over retriggering behavior of envelopes

And everything from @joeSeggiola since it is a fork.

Here is a video of me playing 6 Turing Machines at audio rate:

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#276

the thread for Stages (and the split for this alt firmware development) is perfectly busy and civil at MW:

(edit added link)

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#277

Man, it’s awesome seeing all the improvements and changes folks have been making to Stages. I’m constantly feeling vindicated in Stages being one of the first modules I bought.

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#278

what’s been great about this development path is that it does preserve the orig Stages functionality in its entirety, so i can choose how far down the path i go (on almost a per-stage basis). the current code is certainly complex but simple enough to get to new features (which dramatically expand possibilities for self-patching etc).

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#279

Does anyone have a good resource or guide around what firmwares are out there and how to install them? I can go scour the forums, but I figure someone may have compiled something somewhere

#280

I only found two:

  • Multimode by joeSeggiola (it’s up in this thread)
  • Bipolar (working title) by qiemen

Bipolar is a extension of Multimode.

Sources I looked at:

  • here
  • Mutable Instruments Forum
  • Muffwiggler
  • Google

There are lists of alt firmwares for Mutable Instruments in general but those are only listing the most popular ones.

In my opinion it doesn’t make sense to have to many Multimode firmwares for one module since switching is inconvenient. See what happens with kammerl and parasites. In the end they merge anyway. In this case it seems like @joeSeggiola is either on break or is finished with his work. I didn’t see any activity lately and he hasn’t responded to messages (which is alright, just facts no complaints). This is probably the reason qiemen forked his code and continued the work (wild speculation).

Installing them is simple. You download the wav file from the GitHub release (first link I posted) and follow the update procedure from the MI Website.

It is a reversible process.

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#281

The advantage, to me, is that you have more options up front. With multimode Stages and with Monsoon I’ve found that after I spend time learning the different modes I tend to stick with one that suits my purposes best, just like you might do by swapping out modules in your rack.

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#282

please read the most recent posts on the Muffwiggler thread I linked above. the current firmware contains all of the previously available modes.

#283

these are all the work of independent developers, which is a byproduct of open source code, rather than a kind of official process people are following. the Stages code is converging, and this was all discussed on MW. the most recent code contains (more or less iirc) all the previous work.

of course, no one is requiring you install or use this firmware.

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#284

TIL it makes sense to run Turing Machines at audio rate. That’s cool.

There aren’t so many, here are the links:

So, basically you decide how deep you want to go. Each firmware is “incremental”. The installation process is practically the same for each one, check the links.

You’re kinda right. I finished what I wanted to do initially, and unfortunately it has been months I couldn’t play with the module, let alone work on it. I planned some other things from suggestions at the time, but didn’t started. I’m really thankful to @qiemem for pushing it forward.

And, I still don’t know if I’ll merge his work in the future, or if I’ll keep my firmware “branch” with a different features-set. I will decide when I’ll have the time to get back on it, no point in doing it now.

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#285

Thanks @Jay!

Simpler firmwares people may be interested in:

  • n-So released a firmware that is literally Stages with 8x slower LFOs. Some people like the simplicity of that one. Note that I think this one is missing colorblind mode, and also doesn’t have S&H adjustment and clocked LFO apex matching that the firmwares Émilie posted in that thread have. With joeSeggiola’s multimode firmware, once you put it in slow LFO mode, it remembers it, so you can basically forget about the multimode stuff if you don’t want it, and it does have the mentioned improvements.
  • c0rpse released a firmware where attack ramps ignore re-triggers like DUSG, Maths, etc. Not sure which version this one is based on.

For comparison, you slow down LFOs in mine on a per LFO basis: hold the LFO’s button and move the slider to the bottom (top will put the LFO in audio rate). You change retrigger behavior of ramps (any ramp; not just attacks) by holding its button and wiggling its pot.

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#286

I would love the just slower LFO’s if you could post a link that would be great

#287

having the option running the LFO’s bipolar is such a great improvement.

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#288

Ah, so slightly misremembered. The original slow LFO firmware is by n-So, not joeSeggiola. Here’s the link: https://forum.mutable-instruments.net/t/stages/13643/55

Just a heads up: I’m pretty sure that’s based on Stages 1.0, which doesn’t colorblind mode of 1.1, and also doesn’t have the S&H correction or the phase apex matching of clocked LFOs that Émilie released elsewhere in that thread.

Also, for comparison, with joeSeggiola’s multimode firmware, you access slower by holding down the third button for 5 seconds. Then all LFOs will be 8x slower (and that’s remembered after restart). With mine, you hold an LFO’s button and move the slider to the bottom to reduce LFO range (moving to top will put it in audio rate range). The range is indicate by LED speed. So the big difference is you have independent control for each LFO.

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#289

@qiemem Welcome to Lines

Thank You :blush:

Very understandable, I’m exited to see what you come up with if/when you have time to get to it.

I sincerely hope I didn’t come across as ungrateful. It’s amazing that people spend there free time to advance something for all of us. I also see that there is use in simpler firmwares for people only wanting slight adjustments. But I also enjoy the current “unified” iteration of the firmware and that everything is in one place.

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#290

Yeah, this alone has me really looking forward to trying this firmware out over the weekend. Seems like you’ve put a lot of thought into making the controls usable – the “hold button and wiggle knob to toggle” controls sounded strange to me at first, but I’m warming to it as a clever way to avoid extra long hold times or combinations between multiple channels’ buttons. Thank you for making your work available to us!

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