Seems like you’ve put a lot of thought into making the controls usable – the “hold button and wiggle knob to toggle” controls sounded strange to me at first, but I’m warming to it as a clever way to avoid extra long hold times or combinations between multiple channels’ buttons.

Thanks! Ya, that’s the idea. Also, I wanted any features that people didn’t care about to stay out of their way. Stages is already a pretty complex module, and while this firmware definitely increases the complexity, you can just forget about features you don’t care about and they won’t impact your workflow at all.

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this is so exciting! and thanks lines folks for posting all of these firmware info and to joe and qienem and others for doing this exciting open source work. i have an extra skiff sitting around and am tempted to have an all-stages rig (mostly kidding).

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Purely theoretical but what sort of sounds could you make with just Stages?


This video (not my own) shows the Stages just running in the harmonic oscillator mode.

It depends how strict you want to be:

  • Green looping segments go into audio rate, track V/O and are in tune when the fader all the way up.
  • Random Segments produce noise

When you have an audio rate signal (possible coming from a Segment) you can:

  • create subharmonics with a green not retriggering segment, a random Segment or a clocked LFO
  • sample and Bitrate reduce with a yellow segment
  • Filter with slew from yellow segment and green segment (1.0 alt. Firmware)
  • Gated VCA with red segment

Edit: And of course Harmonic oscillator mode

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Thanks.

This might be an interesting vcvrack experiment.

only with the alternative firmwares above. I’d have 1 stages in harmonic oscillator mode, 1 with slower LFOS and 1 with turing machines. i have a teletype so maybe this isn’t necessary as i guess could program these.

What are the chances of Stages getting alternative builds? Im really into it but it’s 2hp bigger than what I have free…

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You could swap it the faders for knobs and cram it into 8hp. If you keep the original layout, stagger the knobs and jacks, you could probably squeeze the segments together and have a 12 hp stages.
Personally I would enjoy it if someone would push all the jacks closer together in the bottom, do clickable rgb knobs (do they even exist?) in the very top and then build on the longest fader they could fit keeping it at 14 hp.

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I once had the idea to make it reverse. So to make the buttons sliders go on the bottom the the sliders then the knobs then the jacks. This way it would be perfect to go on the bottom of a 6u instead of the top. But yeah it was only a idea…

The simple implementation would probably be to mount it upside down and remap the controls in the firmware.

@qiemem what do you think. Maybe an upside down mode would be a cool feature for future firmware iterations.

Slim I would say :confused: Stages can already feel pretty cramped to be honest, and the layout would have to become somewhat nonsensical to get thinner. Because of the grouping behavior of Stages, the spatial arrangement is pretty essential. I suppose I could see shaving off 2hp by doing a segment/2ph, but it would be super tight then.

I agree with @Jay: if I could make one change to the layout, it would be longer sliders. Oh, maybe bigger staggered clickable rgb knobs to make them a little more playable at the same time.

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This just means flipping slider direction, ya? This should be super easy to do. Maybe holding a button on startup to switch or something? @bloc, would that do the trick?

Edit: oh, realized segment direction would have to be flipped as well of course. Hmm, that might be trickier. I’ll look into it.

If by “knobs” you mean “knob-less” trimmers, yes you could cram it into 8hp. But I think it would indeed be very crammed.
I’m pretty sure somebody will do it nonetheless.

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Well well — Émilie has released her own update, with some cool-looking step sequencer features: https://forum.mutable-instruments.net/t/stages-extended-sequencer-firmware/17493

& the code:

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wow!! this is huge. I’ve very much wished for a quantized mode so I can free up the Disting I’ve been using for that, but the selectable modes really goes above and beyond.

I’m super excited for the addressable mode - as soon as I update, I’m going to patch an envelope so as to “strum”…I don’t have a Rings yet but I’m thinking it would be a match made in heaven.

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Oh my, that opens up a lot more self-patching opportunities for generative/chaotic sequences. Maybe I need a 2nd Stages again…

That extended sequencer is so cool! Also, was very easy to merge :stuck_out_tongue: . Just updated the alt firmware with the extended sequencer and a number of bug fixes: https://github.com/qiemem/eurorack/releases/latest

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I was excited to try out the alt firmware this weekend, and now this! :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

Has anybody combined the “easier to switch to harmonic oscillator” firmware with the new sequencer? I would much appreciate it if so!