Nature Timers; Periodicity

fourhoarder · 2021-08-08T15:15:17.243Z

all kettles are different, of course, but the one we have now has self selected over lesser aspirants, and as part of its appeal has a great round of startup noises. crackles and groans, it also has that satisfying white noise, and this is all before the bubbles. seems like a few well selected kettles heating up could be some part of a musical act.

scotttburton · 2022-05-26T18:47:41.361Z

Been a long time, but I saw a clip yesterday that reminded me of this thread----here’s a Danny Gatton guitar solo where he uses his cigarette as a natural timer!

timp · 2023-03-08T23:44:52.864Z

I managed to get a Ladik Bounce B160 module - simulating bouncing ball… a few examples using SSF Bass drum & Perc modules

Tyler · 2023-03-09T04:19:01.384Z

My dishwasher has a steady lilting groove. It gives different tonalities and rhythms depending on what pans go where and how they’re positioned. The different wash stages are almost like a song cycle. Sometimes I sing along.

timp · 2023-05-01T20:24:05.777Z

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wheelersounds · 2023-05-01T20:35:12.420Z

I can’t find the album right now unfortunately, but someone released recordings of air slowly escaping a plastic bottle of carbonated water, opening it so slightly as to only allow a very small amount of air to escape. She super-close stereo mic’d it and it has all of these incredible pitch envelopes, overlapping periodicities, and dynamic shifts. I wonder how long the recording would be if she waited until the sounds stopped (the soda went flat)…

hermbot · 2023-05-01T21:21:14.819Z

bphenix · 2023-05-02T00:19:18.859Z

Trying to find the name, but about 8 years ago, likely part of NMASS festival… anyhow, there was this electro-acoustic show that was a combination of dripping water, little mechanical devices both in and out of bowls of water, and tall cans of rice being slowly cooked. It was fantastic.

By controlling the height of the cans, the amount of water and rice, the artist could influence the timing as well as pitch and timbre but at the same time was beholden to the physical properties and reactions over time.

I’ve also seen tidal data used for periodic influence but using the source is hardly portable to a studio or performance venue.

timp · 2023-05-02T01:25:47.385Z

I saw a similar but simpler idea in a Sound Art book ages ago (like decades) where the Artist had collected up lots of very small stones & pebbles, and filled a container with them. Then added water & froze it solid. They then suspended the frozen block, hanging it above a resonant object/sheet of steel or something (sorry, a bit vague)
Anyway as the block of ice melted, single stones would slowly break free & drop… I guess speed of melting would depend on ambient temperature…

Did a search & found the artist:

Mineko Grimmer

Los Angeles Times – 9 Aug 92

Sculpturing With Sound : Mineko Grimmer uses ice, pebbles and other materials...

If you own a Mineko Grimmer sculpture, you don't just look at it.

Artist talk

SenseObjects · 2023-05-02T15:09:15.241Z

Light an incense stick, and when it goes out, sets over. I find the Nippon Kodo Morning Star brand joss sticks burn for ~25 minutes. (Useful as a meditation timer as well.) You could maybe spotlight it so the shadow is projected onto a wall so everyone can see it.

slowsounds · 2023-05-02T15:15:30.822Z

this the one you mean? such a good album!

wheelersounds · 2023-05-02T17:24:26.435Z

Yes! Thank you, buying it now so I can’t ever lose it again.

robbie · 2023-05-02T17:28:24.278Z

SenseObjects:

Light an incense stick, and when it goes out, sets over.

Or the Our Modern Times version: 50p in the ’leccy meter and the fun is over when the lights go out.

timp · 2023-05-14T08:15:18.743Z

Bart Hopkin - Wood and Butter

noisejockey · 2023-05-15T14:48:24.251Z

I am reminded of Matmos’ “Ultimate Care II” tour, with their washing machine as the only instrument. The length of the wash cycle was the performance. Logistical nightmare but what an idea. Great album, too.

glia · 2023-05-15T16:25:40.061Z

this is simply fantastic!

does anybody have an idea if that’s a matrix mixer or something off the shelf?

robbie · 2023-05-15T17:46:05.782Z

glia:

matrix mixer or something off the shelf?

Looks suspiciously like a generic 8-channel mixer, specifically an N-Audio MIX800 (aka Karma MX 2008, &c.) judging by the design of the back panel.

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And For Bonus Points! in front of that a pair of 6-band EQ pedals – which I’m going to say are JOYO JF-11.

noisejockey · 2023-05-16T04:38:59.628Z

Bart Hopkin is my spirit animal. Have his book, such a brilliant guy.

xmacex · 2024-01-21T12:48:03.680Z

The topic of this old thread is very evocative.

Sometimes when I am not doing anything particular, my brain starts chatting to me about nature timers and periodicity, apparently recalling and associating the thread above. A brain timer, memory periodicity… meta Just saying, have a nice day.

graymazes · 2024-03-09T20:38:25.524Z

strogatz’s classic on sleep cycle modelling

math.uh.edu

Strogatz_JTheorBiol.pdf

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… there is a book length monograph (his dissertation?) with lots of nice datasets too. (and a survey of other models.) haven’t seen it outside of school libraries but admittedly haven’t looked that hard…