*nested* + less concepts: album + cellular automata sequencer (norns, Mac)


Happily, @Olivier – thank you for ordering one :slight_smile:

hope everyone’s has arrived by now! please send a PM if you haven’t received yours


to be blunt, I’ve just always struggled with worth. my family, like a lot of folks’, was damaging (/ damaged) and pretty toxic – it was hard to explore self while having to protect it from them. I found theatre + improv comedy to be a really good outlet, but there was a lot of stuff I was making up for as I pursued it. there’s a validation component early on, for sure, but as I continued I started struggling against being ____ enough. my energy during performances would ramp to keep poking at this thing that defined my sense of self, to ask more of it because I wasn’t putting in the work in other ways to discover it more healthily. through college and for a bit after, those moments outweighed the cost (not really my debt alone, but also what it asked of those around me) until it didn’t.

discovering lines and everyone who is a part of it was part of a turning toward myself again. toward being with my inner kiddo more and making a safe environment for him.

music is the only place where I’ve been able to best exercise balance. “giv[ing] up ‘note-making’” was necessary, because of how willingly I tried to fill notes with self-meaning.

the Georg Kühlewind quote in the GitHub notes pretty much sums it up:
Because man does not experience the Seeker, the Thinker, the Experiencer in his presentness, he needs property, success, self-assertion -- confirmation that he is. Instead of experiencing himself as a thinker, which is certainly possible, he seeks to convince himself of his existence from the outside, and that brings him to the habit of self-feeling. But man can only feel himself because of something -- everything that serves him in this way, everything important and 'necessary,' everything he clings to. Finally other men begin to serve the same purpose for him, and this determines his relationship to them. Position, power, money, and recognition form his world, on which he is dependent, and in which he has continually to make an effort to prove himself, to be certain of his own existence.

anyway, hope that gives insight without too much weight. :slight_smile:


wow, thank you for such an answer :sparkling_heart:


That sounds terrifyingly like someone I see on tv every night…

And I recognize that in myself as well of course…

Hard work becoming something approximating actually human…


And I have to say that I’m continually grateful for the quality and level of thought and kindness I find in lines as a community…

Who would have predicted that a grid of little illuminated buttons would generate such an amazing space!


Been thinking these things over. Tonight I stumbled upon something that seems to explore some of the same questions around the process and inner dialogue. It’s a generative album created with supercollider on the xkatedral label, called ‘A loss of self’. The supercollider code has been shared so that others can learn how it was made.


Looking for recommendations on music made with SuperCollider

well in case it is useful, this full 2-pole SVF is what i’ve settled on as my favorite musical digital filter. its versatile, can be naively modulated at audio rate, can act as quadrature sine osc, is amenable to extra saturation stages, and is pretty simple.

this is a c struct with a PD wrapper, could easily translate to gen or (less trivially) to msp external. [maybe i should say, non-trivial only because the toolchain is a PITA.)

[ https://github.com/catfact/audio-externals/blob/master/svf/svf.h ]
[ https://github.com/catfact/audio-externals/blob/master/svf/svf.c ]

(detail: implementation is based pretty directly on andy simper’s nodal analysis model using trapezoidal integration, based in turn on hal chamberlin’s original circuit. highly recommended reading here (complementary to “art of VA filter design”): [https://cytomic.com/index.php?q=technical-papers])

(oh yea: this includes a tan(w/2) in the gain coeff calculation, which linearizes amplitude over frequency sweep [iirc…]. it can be omitted for speed without adverse affects over much of the frequency range.)


this looks like exactly what I’m looking for @zebra, thank u :pray:. more euro research has pretty much proved that what I’m looking for will not fit in a small/cheap case, so I think I’m back to max and midi knobs for now. @alanza if you aren’t planning on porting this to gen~ in the near future I probably will (might need some help though).


trapezoidal integration – isn’t this the same as the bilinear transform? In any event this (BT) should give the best result.

[in general this works well only for a single SVF or “second-order-section” – the BT will distort frequency relationships for analog filters with multiple resonant peaks… but everything looks good here.]


in the LTI case, yes it is. and yea keeping it 2nd order makes it simple.


Enjoying this now - thanks.

Perhaps some filter fm or distortion in there too… all sounds nicely decayed. Could be some distortion in the delay feedback loop perhaps…


Hey, thanks again for these links! With only self-taught knowledge of electronics, his notation is somewhat hard to follow (two adjacent lowercase letters to denote one variable, for example, goes against some very deep habits for me xD), but useful to muddle through.

I’ve been somewhat surprised to learn that “slap a tanh on it in the correct spot” is (was?) approximately state-of-the-nonlinear-art :joy:


update! title change! new album!

when I was in SF last month, I got to spend some time with an STS Serge Animal at the Vintage Synth Museum. the first night was pretty much just noodling around, trying to translate my experiences from eurorack. the second night, Lance (VSM’s owner) helped me set up a Kilpatrick PHENOL to run MIDI-to-CV conversion from ‘less concepts’ (app) to the Serge panels and after resolving some grounding issues, things clicked in a super unexpected way. I ended up recording six improvisations in that session, which I post-processed through the same karma~ m4l device I used on ‘less concepts’ (album). though these pieces aren’t deep demonstrations of patch programming (I found a patch that clicked and pretty much kept it throughout the night), there’s definitely a “be less friggin’ precious” kinship between these tracks and the ones I released in October. plus, it’s fun to have a concrete demo of the app!

here’s a video of the first track getting made:

pre-orders open, releases 1/13/2019. the album art Racquel made for this one is doooooooope:

big ups to @taylor12k for mastering. I’m excited to explore some specifics with him in an upcoming episode of Sound + Process, but it needs to be said that he is a deeply thoughtful engineer and artist. I greatly appreciate his touch on this. :revolving_hearts:


Looking forward to this. @taylor12k did wonders with the masters of my latest album. Can’t recommend him enough.


first track sounds fantastic dan! excited to hear the rest!


yayyy! also that Animal sounds amazing. this + Make Noise’s recent video using one kind of have me in awe from a purely sonic standpoint, not having been really familiar with Serge much before - are you able to describe your patch at all? that organic robot kinda sound that comes in around 1:00 is what really gets me.


idk if this helps, but:

the outside-left area is v/8 and gates from less concepts.

that’s the filter (VCFQ) doing its magic with oops-i-patched-two-outputs-to-an-input. the NTO is sending its variable wave into the VCFQ. the VCFQ is also getting the PCO’s triangle (sorta hard to tell in the rat’s nest). the Q on the VCFQ is being modulated by the PCO’s sine. the PCO is in ‘hi’ audio-rate mode.

I’ve tried replicating this with a R*S VCFQ in euro, but It’s hard to nail down – according to 73-75’s site, audio and control voltages in a Serge system are kept at the same level, which allows the voltage-controlled patch-points to perform wonderfully with audio-rate as well as CV.


This manual from 1976 seems to be the source of some of the info + diagrams on the 73-75 site. The STS design may be a little different though, but maybe this will help:


I’m a bit late to the party, but this is a lovely album. Some really nice textures going on here.


Holy derks, that track made me smile! Sounds absolutely amazing. Can’t wait to check out the rest of it when it drops.