#82

Thought this thread would be about Kool Keith, and am disappointed.

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#83

got a bit of info from @tehn today (nice to meet you, btw!)

on top of ops to manipulate JF parameters, TT can also access “hidden” modes on JF. in particular, polyphony with per-voice frequency control! exciting. looks like I’ll be picking up a JF soon…

edit: I suppose the tweet above is the syntax for this feature?

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#84

I was wondering all the time what the 2 parameters for JF.NOTE were…
the second kind of indicated 1-6 (RAND 5), but then again it’s going to the volt lookup…

polyphony… exciting! :heart_eyes:

#85

Oh man - I wonder if this will allow Ansible to talk to Just Friends - the polyphonic Midi mode would would be a great combo with this…

If not I can wait for tXi to add 4 cv inputs I guess

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#86

Nice to meet you too…:+1: That sounds AWESOME! Cant wait to try that out! Now im wondering what other goodies are hidden inside JF… This information is totally easing my GAS for ARC/ansible, very exciting!

#87

Oh man. Now this has my curiosity piqued.

Santa’s elves sure have been BUSY! :santa:

#88

What?! Any more info on this?
How miniature?

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#89

Seriously. Part of my not accepting that I own a bit of euro again is to keep it housed in essentially a cardboard box. This may well change that!

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#90

thank you very much for sharing the info.

#91

as a JF/Ansible user but not a TT user i reeeeally hope there are some non-TT options to access the new modes, that polyphony idea would open up a world of possibility for me.

#92

i think the power of bus is that it allows access to the module without need for new knobs, inputs, or any hardware on the module. for many things i can’t see how you would interface it without teletype.

#93

at risk of sounding brash
are you planning to get tt at some pt in the future? or perhaps had one in the past and just didn’t click?

if you have no real interest in teletype…check the code once they put it on git and try to modify to suit your purposes

seems doable

#94

fair enough, i’m honestly just not much of a coder. i enjoy max and all but typing/coding in general isn’t a very fluid or intuitive way for me (personally) to interact with music at this point, which is the main reason i haven’t picked one up. WW and ansible, on the other hand, make total sense to me.

that isn’t to say that it wouldn’t be at some point in the future, or that some new piece of the puzzle wouldn’t make me try it out, so who knows. seeing videos of lines members making amazing things with TT is definitely inspiring!

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#95

It should be noted that in run mode Plume, a JF is already capable of limited polyphony. In fact, in Plume mode (at least), a single JF is almost shockingly like a little complete poly synth voice, with simple envelope control, complex waveform modification, etc. You don’t even need a filter…depending on what you’re trying to do.

I spent as much time as I could this weekend with a pair of them, and a 3 Sisters, and sometimes, a grid + Ansible, and this little group of modules is honestly awe-inspiring. JF is a masterpiece.

You can also acccess multiple voices in other modes, but in my limited playing thus far, Plume mode seems to be where the best possibilities are.

I have a pretty good idea of what and/or how TT integration will expand the capability of the module. It feels like everything’s in there to take it to the/a next level–at least as I imagine it…could be wrong though

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#96

i can respect that

it’d be good to see who among the firmware wranglers might be willing to tackle polyphonic JF sans TT

a gesture based system compatible with ansible, WW, or ES midi would be great

i’d wait to see what exactly Just Type does and then open a thread about modding it

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#97

Indeed.

However, as noted, you can play the thing polyphonically right now, albeit without complex note arrangements. I was playing four voice chords all weekend long on it, simply sequenced via the grid. Six voices is doable with two more triggers; or you could mult actually.

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#98

Just to put this out there for any technically minded non-teletype users. The II bus is just i2c (aka TWI). You’ll need to suss out the electrical specifications for the header, but otherwise you could connect an Arduino or a Teensy and use that to send II messages from the computer. (Or even receive messages on a computer from a teletype.)

IIRC, it’s currently single master i2c, but it would be nice to get multi-master i2c running (e.g. then you’d be able to trigger teletype scripts from meadowphysics).

The aleph also has an II port on it, again i2c, but it uses stereo 3.5mm jacks to transport the signal. (And there is the familial relationship with the Buchla 200e, I think the ‘e’ bit is i2c too.)

(i2c is super common, which is very handy for hacking less open hardware…)

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#99

You gotta try teletype. Sorry

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#100

this made me laugh

i was trying to be diplomatic but it was honestly my first thought :relieved:

at the same time i don’t have ES, MP, WW, or ansible yet and nobody is pressuring me

so i try respect everyones elses choice for whichever interface fits their methods/intentions

#101

plume mode is probably the one i spend the most time in, and i love it for exactly these reasons. but the possibility of being able to open up the pitched voices to individual control (much as you can by giving each trigger input a different source, normalized leftwards) would make the thing so much more complex.

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