Also can anybody explain the monome grids to me? There are so many versions, any disadvantages just using the old ones?

Not really, no. Ansible is open source, so theoretically many things are possible if you’re willing to rewrite the firmware, but as-is the only way for Ansible to interface with a device that is not a Grid or an Arc is by receiving MIDI and responding in one of a few prescribed ways to it. Teletype, by comparison, is able to communicate with a different range of devices and is open-ended without rewriting firmware by design.

As for the grids, they are a device that communicate via an OSC-over-serial protocol. They send messages corresponding to button-presses, and light LEDs in response to messages received. Thus they’re far “dumber” than they might look from a distance, but it’s this lack of purpose that allows their use in a wide variety of contexts. Most community development of applications that use the Grid assume—to greater or lesser extent—that Grids have 128 buttons and 16-step variable brightness. Older grids may or may not. This means using an older grid may sometimes come with UI compromises if you intend to use community applications. Of course, if you write your own code, your grid is your grid.

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“it’s this lack of purpose that allows their use in a wide variety of contexts”

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I’m new to the Monome world and looking to know - are two Ansible modules required for simultaneous Grid and Arc use in a eurorack setup? Tried doing some digging here and through Google and couldn’t seem to find a simple answer. Thanks!

Yes. You can only connect a single device to Ansible at a time, and can only run a single mode of Ansible at a time.

Hey all, just wondering. What might be the most comprehensive modular midi interface to use Norns with modular gear?

I like the idea of a skiff, grids, and Norns as a amazing live performance machine.

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I think there’s something in development that may work for you…

Is it possible to use Ansible to connect Norns to modular gear? I’m slightly confused with the difference between Ansible and Crow.

No, both norns and Ansible are USB hosts, so that won’t work.
crow is a regular USB device that can be connected to a USB host like norns or your PC.

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Hmm, anyone tried sticking a SevillaSoft MIDI USB-USB in the middle? I can try that later this week and report back.

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Welp I just joined the grid family… waiting for ansible to be available and I’m sure I’ll be back here soon with questions :slight_smile:

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It might work if you put ansible in MIDI mode

I’ve been thinking about getting one of those devices from Sevillasoft to connect my iPad running sequencers into Ansible in midi mode.

I’d love to hear if anything like that is working for other folks…

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its worked for me connecting ipad to Norns…

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I have all three; note to self to try this when I get home later in the week.

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I’ve connected both iPad and Norns to Ansible through the SevilaSoft. I couldn’t make it work predictably. I’ve had a lot of struggle with Ansible Midi coupled to sequencers.

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Thanks for sharing, that doesn’t sound particularly encouraging but maybe there is a solution that someone has discovered or is working on… this is Lines after all!

I’ve used a Sevilla soft connected either via Norns or my Mac (for using with @dan_derks’s Less Concepts apps) to Ansible. Norns was fine, the Mac app I was a bit confused by which channel on the Sevilla soft to send messages. I am always a bit confused by Ansible’s midi modes, but that is more to me not rtfm-ing enough.
I think @mlogger uses the Sevilla soft (i bought if off his recommendation in the less concepts thread), maybe he can jump in with tips.

It was the Ansible modes that was first confusing.
I use Mode 3. This should be the default setting instead of the ASR type Mode 1.

Allocation style 3: MULTI

4 pairs of CV/TR mapped in simple MONO pitch/gate outputs responding to MIDI channels 1-4.

Interface

  • Key 1 : Panic (clear all tr/cv)
  • In 1 : Panic
  • Key 2 : Change allocation style
  • In 2 : (nothing currently)

Sometimes you also need to press Key 1 at first to clear the TR/CV depending on the app.

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@mlogger thanks for taking the time to clear this up, I was confused about using mode 1 & mode 3 w/ less concepts. cheers!

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