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radioedit · 2022-07-26T14:59:23.975Z

Sidiblue:

what interests me the most is soundscape based drone, field recording, feedback

With drone-oriented music, you might find a 16N faderbank (or the AtoV rework) more useful. You can map its faders to all kinds of things in many Norns scripts. I love my Grid but I covet a 16N!

16n is a bank of faders [release thread] General

[faderbank] 16n is a MIDI, CV and I2C controller with sixteen faders. It’s entirely open-source - the firmware, electronics, panel designs are all licensed under open source licenses. It began as a project here by @tehn and @shellfritsch . I offered to add MIDI on a minijack; then things took a turn and, on the way, we added CV and I2C. Along the way, things also slowed down owing to my commitments. It’s January 2 2019, and I am releasing this damn thing properly. As of now, all the files y…

Sidiblue · 2022-07-26T15:07:22.287Z

Thank you for your advice. I have a feeling that this type of controller will not allow me to play with granular fx and all that sampling. Maybe have both in this case, I don’t know.

Justmat · 2022-07-27T13:26:51.035Z

there’s certainly nothing stopping you from using granular fx and the like with 16n.

the thing with the 16n is that it can be mapped to most any parameter in a norns script, by the “end user” while grid needs to be coded into the script for it work.

Sidiblue · 2022-07-27T13:42:29.260Z

Thank you for this clarification!

coreyr · 2022-08-28T02:37:23.146Z

Hi All,
Feel like this is a dumb question but worth an ask. I’ve got a grid that i use with my norns or ansible all the time, love it. I’m wondering if i can use it with Ableton Lite for midi note entry WITHOUT a M4L license at all. I rarely make music on my laptop, its usually just for finishing up recordings, but it would be nice to use my grid as a keyboard.

corpusjonsey · 2022-08-28T02:56:55.652Z

This one is fun: GitHub - neauoire/linn: Linnstrument layout on Monome

Using a Grid as Linnstrument Monome

An implementation of the LinnStrument keyboard layout for the Monome 128 . This tiny console script will create a new virtual instrument called Linn Monome to use with your DAW. This script does not require MaxForLive, and has a very small footprint. If there is an interest for a Norns version, I will gladly port it to lua. By default, the linn monome will send to Channel 0, you can change channel by holding down the last key(bottom right), and pressing one of the 16 keys of the top row. You …

coreyr · 2022-08-28T16:05:39.904Z

Thank you! Took a bit to get things setup, no idea how I hadn’t gotten home-brew and git installed on my laptop in the last year but @neauoire’s install instructions were super straight forward.

Any other standalone apps that I should checkout? (again, no m4l license)

PedalsandChill · 2022-09-16T20:11:20.682Z

Wasn’t sure where to ask this. But I hope I’m in the right spot. Anyways!
Does anyone know if there’s a script that will play a sample at the pitch you press on a midi keyboard, pause the sample where you release, then begin playing again from the point of release but at the pitch of the next note you play?
Example “doh a dear, a female dear”
C4 “doh a dear” *release
G#3 “a female” *release
D6 “dear”
Hope that makes sense.

alanza · 2022-09-16T20:13:53.324Z

I’m not aware of one that does this out of the box (doesn’t mean one doesn’t exist), but that sounds like something Timber Keys could be coaxed into doing if you felt up to a little scripting.

xenus_dad · 2022-11-20T19:03:50.018Z

I searched around but cannot find this: is Norns able to address 2 JF modules, as Teletype is able to?

edit Stumbled across my answer:
ii.jf[1].play_note(0, 5) will address one of two

ii.jf[2].play_note(0, 5) two of two

ii.jf.play_note(0, 5) will address whichever JF was last interacted with, which is a little confusing, but could lead to happy accidents I guess.

~~I am guessing no since ii.jf.help() isn’t showing anything related to choosing one or another JF, but, thought I would ask. Thanks!~~

bananastandbucks · 2022-12-01T17:40:11.715Z

Trying to decide if I should go the norns/teletype route or max/ableton - what are the pros and cons? I would like to program/trigger sequences with the Monome, control session view in ableton, and possibly try my hand at some generative stuff as well. Still learning what is capable here so hoping to get pointed in the right direction.

alanza · 2022-12-01T17:48:02.298Z

It might help if I knew why is this an either/or? One can use grid with both of these sets of devices, after all.

ParliamentLite · 2022-12-01T22:22:15.433Z

Computer

Pros:
Good workflow
Can do anything
I believe there’s a VCVRack port of Teletype

Cons:
Not quite as fun as hardware
Might not be ideal for playing live (coming from someone who only has old computers)
Can be annoying to sort out latency issues

monome

Pros:
Super fun
Good people behind the scenes
Open ended and exciting
Technically a computer
Easy to bring to a gig

Cons:
Not always readily available
Learning curve can be steep depending on your goals
Can be fiddly at times

That’s my take. Can’t go wrong either way but these days I would probably advise going the computer route because it’s easier to record stuff and reproduce it. Also I find computer knowledge is more universally applicable than say Teletype syntax. I spent many hours learning how to Teletype and now that I don’t have one I wonder if that time could have been better spent? I did enjoy working with it but ultimately I’ve moved away from eurorack so take that with a grain of salt.

WilliamHazard · 2022-12-02T03:13:42.472Z

ParliamentLite:

I find computer knowledge is more universally applicable than say Teletype syntax

this is honestly a part of what drew me to norns instead of Teletype — Lua is Lua everywhere, so learning to write for norns also involves learning a lot of skills that are more broadly applicable. Like @alanza said, it doesn’t have to be an either/or, but I’m glad to have invested time into learning to write for norns. It’s served me pretty well and has gotten me interested in coding in other contexts too

bananastandbucks · 2022-12-02T12:08:30.536Z

Either or because I know Im going to need to spend a decent amount of time on either route to fully understand what I am doing with the Monome and Id prefer to stay focused on that for a bit and spread myself too thin, I also have a habit of dropping money into things and I feel like if Im going both routes that could probably add up.

sequentialsnep · 2022-12-03T12:43:16.948Z

Hey folks, just got into a Norns shield and slowly diving into the programming, but I do have a kinda dumb question: How is Monome pronounced?

Is it Mo-nome?
I’ve seen some youtubers pronounce it mo-no-meh.

Cheers!

eblomquist · 2022-12-03T13:39:28.549Z

Mon-ohm. Or mahn-om. I’m not a linguist…

Emphasis on the first syllable.

radioedit · 2022-12-03T13:44:29.213Z

Yeah, I pronounce it in the same way as “biome” (though have no idea if that’s correct)

eblomquist · 2022-12-03T14:32:50.511Z

If you watch the old monome profile video from cycling74, that’s how it is pronounced by the proprietors!

cuba1956 · 2022-12-06T11:17:23.318Z

Dear community, I’ve been lucky to purchase a full set of Monome stuff:

Outdated modules — Earthsea + Meadowphysics + White Whale
Couple of Ansibles
128 grid and arc controllers
Teletype + 3 expanders

I’ve been running -isms case for a while and I also happen to own all Mannequins modules (not counting a bunch of other eurorack gear). Which I happen to learn you can connect magically via i2c and achieve an eternal bliss. As far as I understand, Ansible basically makes dedicated modules outdates cause they run all firmwares. How would you approach this to explore this in the most efficient way?

I’ve been trying to find the most recent getting started guide, but there’s just too much for my old tiny brain to comprehend. So I’m wondering and I appreciate if you could point me in the right direction:

What updates should I deploy on all of them before getting started? Was there specific update or firmware I need to look out?
What’s the best way to connect everything together on the back? Who’s the master > follower in the connection, etc? I’m handy and capable, but blindly ignorant.

Please help cause Monome been my lifelong goal since I saw videos years ago before starting my eurorack journey and now that I finally was able to appreciate it.

On my background and goals: I’m fairly familiar with trackers, eurorack and max. But I would to limit my exploration to Grids, Arc + Teletype for now. Not involve Max in the production. Just want to explore small fun -isms case, generate some tunes and bleep-blops.

Appreciate your help and sorry if it’s been discussed numerous times. It’s even a bit difficult for me to navigate thousands of posts.