norns.community: forward

Justmat · 2023-05-16T14:23:36.915Z

looks great! much simpler for script authors to just “do their thing”

reijo · 2023-05-16T14:38:10.936Z

The new version looks great. Thank you for your work!

Somehow my script rehear didn’t make it to the other side

Or are not all scrips migrated yet?

infinitedigits · 2023-05-16T14:50:27.110Z

love it!! beautiful work. thank you x 1000 to @tyleretters, @eigen, @tehn, @dani_derks for iterating on the norns community. its such a great resource.

Oootini · 2023-05-16T14:58:49.154Z

Amazing pivot!! Really like this.

dani_derks · 2023-05-16T14:58:55.407Z

eee! so heartened by everyone’s warm responses – thank you all for making this project so joyful

reijo:

Somehow my script rehear didn’t make it to the other side

Or are not all scrips migrated yet?

just to confirm:

any script in the maiden community catalog is automatically imported – looks like rehear isn’t in there, which partly explains its absence
we took a snapshot of everything from v1 in February 2023, so anything added afterward will not be reflected in v2 – rehear was added in March, which is the other part of the explanation!

to get rehear (or any script!) into v2, just make sure that the criteria outlined in about is met and it should auto-populate overnight. please let us know if we can assist with anything that doesn’t seem like it’s pulling in, though!

glia · 2023-05-16T15:27:06.710Z

chiming in to say the adjustment is welcome

it will make it easier for users and artists to find everything in one place and i love how the info has been organized

thanks to all involved! tho i kinda liked aspects of v1 i LOVE everything about v2 and enjoy the direction shift toward something more minimal (and the decision to build upon permacomputing principles)

sixolet · 2023-05-16T16:02:47.391Z

This will get me to finally add my scripts to the catalog/community. It was too much work before, now it isn’t. Thank you!!!

glia · 2023-05-16T16:08:17.543Z

OK funny enough…i tested the site by using you while searching to see how things work (since i don’t really have any scripts)

I first checked some tags on the explore tab and then tried to figure out whether Phonotype would be listed under tracker, sequencer, sampler or something else

eventually i caved and looked under your author section where i thankfully found it and realized it’s categorized differently than one might expect (for now)

still really cool how quickly i found it despite a slight hiccup

sonoCircuit · 2023-05-16T19:05:40.216Z

also loving how the script thirtythree is actually the 33rd script on @infinitedigits list. zack, from now on only new script names that start with s-z.

spacelordmother · 2023-05-16T20:42:00.789Z

Love the reorg!

dani_derks:

if you discover a bug or something wrong with the formatting, usability, or functionality of the site itself please open an issue here: Issues · monome-community/norns-community · GitHub

Not a bug or necessarily “something wrong” but I’d like to ask for the ability to view the site as dark text on a light background. I know people love dark mode but it bugs my eyes out. If the site can remember my setting that would be wonderful but I have no problem clicking something at the top each time I visit the site if it’s easier. Thanks

dansimco · 2023-05-16T20:57:52.356Z

Bathing in the simplicity.

andrew · 2023-05-16T22:47:33.980Z

100% yes

suggestions/impressions

~~i really like the links up front on the script page, i’m preferential to hosting docs on github so it’s versioned alongside the script & now the external link is way easier to find~~
- ahhhh you’re just pulling docs from the repo anyway !! smart smart
use explore as homepage ! looks great & i appreciate the better use of screen real estate
the ui of the tags doesn’t really feel clear to me whether multiple selected tags are AND’d or OR’d. i was expecting AND but it’s OR (?) am i the only one ?
i miss the separation between general tags & connectivity tags on the old site. i could see that being re-split up into two separate rows on the new site. & i kinda miss the icons!

Gatrix · 2023-05-17T07:52:29.530Z

I think it’s OR. I would also appreciate it being AND’d, because OR isn’t really needed if you can just click single tags.
Maybe it’d be a good idea to select a “base tag” and “secondary tag(s)” to search for, so you could for example search for a looper, that can also be a delay or sequencer in addition to that, although this could just unneccessarily complicate the UI, but maybe it could be hidden under an “advanced search” option?
Other than that, this already looks and feels great, in particular the simplicity of it.
Last idea: What if there would be a “random script” button that’d take you to a random script, similar to wikipedia’s “random page”?

tehn · 2023-05-17T11:47:55.875Z

andrew:

use explore as homepage

indeed it looks good! but i believe that having a front page load several hundred images is a permacomputing anti-pattern.

andrew:

whether multiple selected tags are AND’d or OR’d

agreed, this should be AND

and a perfect moment to reiterate that we’d highly welcome contributions to fix anything

additionally, tag text needs some h-width, selected vs. mouseover color needs disambiguation

andrew:

separation between general tags & connectivity tags

we discussed this at length and opted to not (yet) revamp the catalog fields. right now “tags” are all smashed together. just like tags on this forum, there is no granularity so they become a grab-bag. one solution would be to abandon the “tags” field altogether and use two: “devices” and “categories” or something similar.

i would strongly prefer not to have the static site generator “sort” a bunch of tags into groups manually, which won’t account for the inevitable invention of new tags. the goal of this project was zero management: it’s a window into a dataset, not something that edits or curates or maintains data.

(sorry, setting a bad precedent here by not simply logging issues)

niksilver · 2023-05-17T16:39:00.322Z

Very impressive, and a great example not just of redesigning something, but rethinking it, too. Congratulations.

I’ve submitted an issue regarding font size, but otherwise really great work. Thanks.

fellowfinch · 2023-05-17T16:55:22.940Z

nicely done! I really like that it’s far more connected to the monome homepage layout than v1. The only thing I miss a bit is a search function, but you can easily go cmd+f and call it a day. I really enjoy the tags far more than group categorization in v1. Makes far more sense now, at least for me.

chochacho · 2023-05-17T17:29:10.631Z

Really dig the new look, easy to navigate and find things.

One of the featuress I really liked about V1 were the symbols representing which devices scripts were applicable towards (grid, crow, arc, etc.)

If that could continue to be a thing, that’d be really cool.

andrew · 2023-05-17T21:32:55.144Z

tehn:

one solution would be to abandon the “tags” field altogether and use two: “devices” and “categories” or something similar.

i’m a fan of this solution personally : )

(some crude googling suggests that a JSON schema can limit arrays to certain values, so it seems like some agreed-upon devices & categories could be enforced during the PR phase)

toneburst · 2023-05-18T11:39:30.523Z

My script, Bline looks good I think.

My personal preference; if the active area of the page has a limited width, I prefer to have the content centred on the page (as it is here), rather than stuck to the left edge, as this leaves a large amount of empty space on the right on larger displays, which looks awkward, I feel.

I’d also like to see code snippets have a box around them. They also seem to be formatted smaller than other text, which looks a little odd I think.

I haven’t read the entire thread, so apologies if the above have already been mentioned.

I applaud the effort to make user-generated content more accessible though. Keep up the great work!

tyleretters · 2023-05-20T16:36:52.369Z

thank you for all the encouragement, issues, ideas, and bug reports! some responses i wanted to bubble up:

spacelordmother:

I’d like to ask for the ability to view the site as dark text on a light background

thanks for bringing this up. we did it.

andrew:

i was expecting AND

Gatrix:

I would also appreciate it being AND

yes, we agreed. it is done.

niksilver:

I’ve submitted an issue regarding font size

awesome call out, thank you for this. done.

fellowfinch:

you can easily go cmd+f and call it a day

my thoughts exactly.

chochacho:

I really liked about V1 were the symbols

this issue got sorta swept up into the data normalization issue (see the quotes immediately below this ~~post~~ paragraph). symbols/icons are definitely on the table to make a return.

tehn:

one solution would be to abandon the “tags” field altogether and use two: “devices” and “categories” or something similar.

proposal: make it a non-breaking change by keeping the “tags” key but adding “devices”. we could optionally automate a one-time data cleanup PR for all the old scripts.

andrew:

that a JSON schema can limit arrays to certain values

yes! and there already is one in place for maiden: maiden/pkg/catalog/catalog.schema.json at main · monome/maiden · GitHub

toneburst:

also seem to be formatted smaller than other text

thanks for this call out. we addressed it! turns out to be a very strange feature/bug with browsers.

edit:

Screenshot 2023-05-15 at 09.46.02

blog post:

Northern Information

About two years ago we built https://norns.community. It was a massive project, both conceptually and technically. It served us well, but after a needlessly complex server migration earlier this year, we started talking about how to simplify.