norns: Control Norns with iPad as midi keyboard ?

Newish norns shield user and without coding knowledge whatsoever. I’m drowning in lines tabs and norns help docs and I just can’t parse it all out. Apologies if this is succinctly answered elsewhere:

I’m wondering if there is a way to connect my ipad as a midi device, recognizable by norns, so that I can use it as a midi keyboard (for example) to control scripts over wifi.

I thought TouchOSC was my answer, and while I got the felart templates for master parameters working from my iPad, I can’t seem to figure out how to get it connected as a keyboard controller.

I know there are grid and arc TouchOSC templates that require some coding and changing of scripts to make them work … I’m trying not to get in over my head so I’ve been avoiding those. I mostly just want the iPad to function as a midi device like any midi controller, keyboard, etc would.

So:

Is there a way to control norns from a keyboard app on my iPad (or TouchOSC)?

Is there a way to make my ipad discoverable on norns as a midi device?

Thanks in advance <3
-Nate

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Same here! I would like to use this device as midi controller, not only as keyboard (this could be the least case of use) but modify parameters using faders, knobs and grid buttons on the iPad.

You should get better answers from other members, but AFAIK iPad and Norns are both hosts and cannot simply communicate with each other. You would need to wire them via something like @okyeron’s 2host device for the iPad to be seen as Midi device by Norns.

Having briefly looked at it myself, it seems that although iOS natively supports midi over wifi, Norns doesn’t. Some (successful?) attempt were done in the past but I can only see a couple of posts mentioning it on lines, and it has not been widely implemented…

Yes this is doable. As @dborowik said, you need an interface device capable of receiving iPad midi and sending it along to norns. Both are hosts, so a simple usb cable won’t work. The audio/midi interface I use is a Zoom U-44, which can receive midi through the usb-c connection with the iPad, and then it sends via 5-pin midi connectors, so I have a 5-pin/usb adaptor to plug it into norns. But there many other interfaces capable of acting as the go-between.

And then to route the outgoing midi from the iPad to norns I usually use AUM, but there are plenty of other options/apps for sending midi to the interface. In norns, the interface shows up in the device list under “U-44” or something similar, so it’s just a matter of setting that as the midi source in whichever script you’re working with.

2host does the job. It’s sending midi out to organelle synth. Also sending the audio out for the beat but I have midi notes being sent out