Norns: help

[ngwese]

The current work in progress for project/package management in maiden was merged into master back in July. It currently lacks a degree of UI feedback which is needed (in my opinion) but the basics work.

If folks are interested in helping to push it across the finish line I’ll start another topic for dev and testing.

[tehn]

try rebooting again after the fresh image first boot. i’ve seen an issue where the first boot after flash throws an error.

[okyeron]

(huge guess) wonder if this has something to do with network settings. If the new CM3+ hardware has a new MAC address maybe that’s wrenching network manager somehow?

(I run into a SC: FAIL on my RasPi build process when network manager is not installed yet and SC can’t properly get an address to connect)

[Prnts]

I finally got past it after loading the old cm3 to make sure it wasn’t hardware related. When I put the cm3+ back in it booted without error. Then I expanded the storage and it’s working fine now. Thanks for your help.

[zebra]

@tehn @Prnts et al

SUPERCOLLIDER FAIL tends to mean that the sclang process has entirely failed to launch for some reason. using the maiden REPL won’t help in this case because there is nothing on the other end of the websocket. (with duplicate engines you get far enough that the sclang interpreter works, but can’t compile its class library.)

the most common cause of launch failure is that there is already a sclang process holding the requested UDP port. it’s not too hard to create this situation by using/abusing the debug scripts; rebooting usually fixes, but there are ways to bork it worse by playing with the jack environment or with systemd.

as @okyeron said, another other possible reason is a general problem with systemwide network management, though this should not just happen after an update.

finally, it is possible to have engine or core norns SC code that totally crashes the sclang process on init, one way or another.

in all cases, starting sclang directly from the shell is the best diagnostic step and will generally yield immediate clarification.

[seres]

hey everybody. I have a pretty simple question, I was wondering if it’d be at all possible to connect a USB audio interface as an input to Norns. I know it sounds like a silly idea, but I have a USB turntable, that acts like an interface and it’d be cool, if I could sample directly into, say MLR, or something. any help on this would be amazing

[a_pacione]

After following directions from Monome’s website, I’m having trouble moving from disc image 181101 to fresh install of 190817. After extracting and trying to flash with Etcher the first message that pops up is

Second message if I choose continue is

Then

Not sure how to proceed.

[dan_derks]

@a_pacione: just replied to your help@monome.org request sorry for the delay!

[kuorinki]

What kind of psu are people in europlug landia using with their Norns?

[tehn]

any 5v USB source is fine given it is 1.5A or more. 2A is better.

[RamnFassn]

Hey everybody. I just did a fresh install of the system image 190801, because my unity was freezing and becoming unresponsive after I deleted a few scripts in the dust folder. I was able to flash the 190801 image, everything went smoothly but connecting to wifi isn’t happening for me. I already tried putting the wifi nub into a different USB port and rebooting using both the reset and sleep commands, but I’m still not able to connect to wifi and upgrade to 2.1.1. On the wifi page it says, STATUS: unavailable, both NETWORK and IP are empty, and the HOTSPOT and CONNECT buttons below do nothing when I press them, I have a “none” message when entering in ADD and CONNECT pages. Any help will be much appreciated.

[dan_derks]

hi Ramon!

if you are able to perform the following functions, you should be able to get further:

Norns: help

in the context of this discussion, networking might not be functional, ssh isn’t an option; use the serial port: (from the docs) Without WIFI, you can connect to norns via USB-UART by connecting the power cable to your computer. On Mac/linux do: screen /dev/tty.usb(tab) 115200 where (tab) means: use the shell’s autocompletion to give you the right device path to norns; it will be the only one starting with /dev/tty.usb (or maybe /dev/ttyUSB) unless you have other usb-serial things attach…

nb. you can also use putty if you’re on windows.

once you do the serial login, try running nmtui for a graphical interface, which may have better luck connecting to a network.

[RamnFassn]

Hey Dan! Thanks for the tip! I was able to perform the function you suggested, successfully achieving graphical feedback, however the graphical interface doesn’t show the available networks, am I missing something?

[dan_derks]

however the graphical interface doesn’t show the available networks, am I missing something?

bugh – it sometimes surfaces networks that norns isn’t. so when you’re going to Active a connection there’s just the Wi-Fi header and that’s it? if so, sorry for the false lead on this one

what is your router config? WPA, WEP?

[RamnFassn]

so when you’re going to Active a connection there’s just the Wi-Fi header and that’s it?

Yeah, it seems so.

what is your router config? WPA, WEP?

I think my router is configured as WPA/WPA2.

[materialobject]

Hello.
I am using the NORNS box with the ARCS controller.
I am using the script - MANGL, the version that is/was included with the Norns
I often run into an issue when i boot up the Norns, and it launches / resumes the MANGL patch and things are just frozen, or the Norns is doing what you would expect it to do but the ARCS is not displaying the correct lights, specifically, the lights remain stationary, fixed on the outer ring, when they should be rotating .
I can fix this issue by simply rebooting the Norns

Is this something other people are experiencing?
Does anyone have any tips to avoid this?
I have updated the OS to the latest version and the issue still occurs.
i would say somewhere around 25% of the time when i boot it.
It’s not a big problem at all and isn’t stopping me from working but if anyone has any knowledge to share, pls do.
thanks

[Justmat]

This is not something that I have experienced. Does the arc stay frozen when you unplug and plug it back in?

specifically, the lights remain stationary, fixed on the outer ring, when they should be rotating

In mangl only leftmost ring should rotate, the other three are stationary. Could you be thinking about Angl?

[materialobject]

Hi.
it is Mangls and yes, its the left most ARC that i mean, so, the norns might say, 50% speed, but the Arc is not moving…
Ive not tried the unplug / replug as, the norns itself doesnt respond either in that case, knobs or buttons do nothign and the Mangl screen is locked, diplaying the text ONE with the 4 params in smaller txt underneath it
Again, it doesnt happen consistenly or enough to be a real problem. but im curious.
not knowing much about how the thing works, the only thing i can think of that might cause this is perhaps it doesnt like the samples im using, as in the format… and was wondering if it doesnt like 24 bit / or whatever Hz rates…?
thank you

[dan_derks]

@RamnFassn can you please either email help@monome.org or DM me your email address so I can set up a support ticket for you?