The reason I asked about the FH-2 though was that it can behave as a midi client as well as a host. This is one of the main differences between the FH-1 and FH-2. I may have to just get one to try it out. Theoretically it should work though.

I’ve got an FH-2 coming in the mail this week - I should know by Thursday or Friday if it works or not. I share your understanding that the FH-2 in usb device/client mode should work, though. Fingers crossed!

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I can confirm: Norns sees the FH-2 as a device and sends MIDI over just fine, with a USB A to USB C cable. No special config required.

I should add that the FH-2 had some issues with the rest of my system. It was sending out messy gates, and double-triggering my Maths, as described here:
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2909143#2909143
I’m not 100% happy with the suggested solution though, so be aware if you use a lot of Make Noise modules.

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Ah I wonder if it will be resolved in a future firmware update. I almost bought one today but might hold off for a bit as I don’t really want to deal with any workarounds. Glad to hear it hears Norns through the C port

dumb non unix user question—are session uptimes logged anywhere? just discovered my grid going even though i haven’t had time to tough norns this week and i’m wondering if i left it on for 4 days or my cat is to blame.

Hi. I think this is my first Norns: help post since I got my device. I’ve been playing as part of a trio. It’s me, a guitarist, and a vocalist, and I’m processing both their outputs with (1) Norns, (2) my Eurorack, and (3) an iPad. For the time being, I’m mostly using MLR with a 128 grid, and sometimes Cranes without any controller (though I’m looking to use something to tweak speed manually). At the most recent rehearsal (last week) and today at our first performance at an actual venue (a cafe), I found that after about an hour and a half, Norns became non-responsive. I’m only recording about four seconds or so of audio at any given time. Today I only used MLR, to see if there’s an issue with switching back and forth with Cranes (the issue of non-responsiveness after extended use persisted, so I guess it’s not about switching programs). Essentially what happens is that after about an hour and a half of constant Norns use, I can’t get out of the main menu, meaning I can’t put it to Sleep or change Parameters, or Select a different app(lication)/script/program. If you have thoughts about how to avoid that freeze, that’d be super. Thanks very much.

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I’ve only had this kind of freeze happen once.
I used MLR and Wurlitzer piano as my only instruments when I opened for Florist/@stripes last month and was a little worried it would happen then… but it was totally solid. :man_shrugging:t2:

Also, I highly recommend a usb midi knob/fader box to partner with Norns. It makes it much more playable in a live setting.

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so not really a solution to the problem, but perhaps a way to get running again without a hard restart…

If you are able to get the ipad and norns on the same wifi network (norns in hotspot mode I guess?) then you could connect via ssh (using Prompt or some other ssh app) and run ./stop.sh and ./start.sh (in the norns directory)

The problem sounds like one of the main norns processes has crashed or is stalled or something. Thus I think it would take a restart of the stop/start combo to get working again

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Thanks for that. Now I want to hear your Wurlitzer/Norns work. Is that online?

The MIDI device I’m using with my Norns (baby steps) is the Launch Control Mini.

Thanks, I’ll give that a go.

I encounter the same issue as @disquiet does.

Hm, I had several issues with the Launch Control Mini and could only get it to work OKish via a powered USB hub. I can recommend the faderfox pc24 as a small, light weight but at the same time very usable knobby controller which does not need any powered hub to work with Norns. I used it on stage recently twice running @artfwo’s wonderful Glut script without any issues. Haven’t used MLR extensively yet.

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the current build is CPU heavy when using MLR/cranes and the AUX Reverb at the same time. i’d highly recommend disabling the reverb while using MLR/cranes for the meantime.

there’s a very substantial update on the way that will address all of this. i apologize for long period without an update— large undertakings snowballed into a major version change.

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Which MIDI box are you finding workable?

PS: That little Away case you mentioned works perfectly, especially when paired with a cloth diaper. :slight_smile:

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no, I didn’t record it… but i think the sound guy might have.
I should try and track it down.

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i’ve tried it w/ the naked boards 8 fader thing, kenton killamix mini and my old doepfer pocket series controllers (via a 5pin midi - usb adaptor).

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That would be super.

I’ve used the SYSTEM => SYNC => SYNC TO USB feature for the first time. It’s a somewhat new 64 GB flash drive. It’s been running for over 10 minutes. Is this within the expected timing? What is being synced?

no that’s weird. it’s just running update.sh i think. should be doable from ssh session