thanks, that would be great.

it doesn’t seem to be receiving any incoming midi. I used some code that you posted to detect midi messages and I don’t see anything happening. I tested the same code with a midi fighter twister and the code did detect midi messages.

yes, the emu shows up on port 1 in the devices list.

Does midi output work by any chance ?

this is probably unrelated since you said you wrote a script to detect midi events, but i had issues getting midi notes to run from my op-1. it wouldn’t respond to it from any script. but after running the midi connect command from the studies, in the REPL it just popped and now works as expecting. i think i had to do something similar for the grid but can’t quite remember for sure.

i have not been able to get any of jah’s scripts running with my newest eddition grid, but everything else seems to work as expected here. too soon to rule out user error on that front.

there’s a known issue that requires reattaching the grid when running my scripts (which still uses the old grid device andling way)

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wow, thanks. i looked around but didn’t see that work around. can’t wait to try them out!

edit: i hadn’t been on lines since the posts in dust about this exact issue when i wrote the post. my bad!

I’m in the same boat (new Norns user) and after just a minute or two MLR freezes up my device to the point I have to hard reset every time. Happens with the Mark Eats Passerby script as well.

Just tested Passerby extensively and confirm this behavior. Pretty sure @tehn has a fix in the works to remedy the underlying issue.

I/O question/issue:

Curious if anyone has had any problems with playback of tape files from Norns’ outputs. AFAICT, the files are fine once transferred and played on my computer, but playing them via the outs on Norns (connected to my studio mixer) can occasionally reveal loud pops and clicks. This sometimes happens when running things into the inputs as well. A restart of the device usually fixes things.

Hi there all, hope all is well with you? This is my first post here. After many years of distant inspiration I have finally pulled the monome trigger and have bought a Norns. I wondered if I might gauge opinion as to the differences between using say a Monome Grid and another product say a midi controller to use the functionality of Norns? I understand Grid runs an OSC protocol as apposed to midi. I wonder if I need to buy a Grids for Norns to be effective? Any further insight into how best approach this would be great. My Norns is still enroute in the mail…with thanks S.

i think it depends on your intended usage! if you want to use applications like MLR that depend on the grid for control then you probably should get a grid! that said, there are certainly plenty of applications (and potential applications depending on your motivation to code/learn to code/execute your will) that don’t use the grid.

Hi there! welcome to lines :slight_smile:

Do you need a Grid for Norns to be effective? Well, it depends on what you want to do with Norns :smiley:

The functionality of Norns is defined by whichever script you are currently running. So, there are some scripts that will require a grid, while many will not. There are also several scripts that don’t require any outside controllers.

Hi there, I am hoping to use Norns as a Polyphonic Sampler, a Granular Looper, a Sequencer for other devices and a Poly Synth…do you think hardware like Grid/Arc are important to these functions? Anyone with more experience on this (which will be everyone:) would be great to hear form too, thanks for the input thus far, cheers!

@Olivier @jasonloeffler it seems like all of these issues are related to CPU bottlenecking. i’ll get back on testing and will have an update this week. in the meantime any additional data points are appreciated

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Great - thanks! Not a major hassle here but figured it was worth mentioning. I’m on the latest release (180904).

Oddly (in terms of CPU bottlenecking), I sometimes get this clicking/popping just after startup. I’ll keep an eye on other variables if this comes up again.

Yes, I’m able to get the previously discussed scripts to consume most of the available CPU. Devices attached or not doesn’t seem to matter. Note that I threw a bunch of MIDI from my Digitakt at Earthsea to trigger the most recent crash.

Stats here:

I’ve attached a screenshot of what htop reports and I’ve emailed you my syslog.

@jasonloeffler ok, thank you for the syslog. that helped.

i think what’s going on is the wifi network bug. https://github.com/monome/norns/issues/399

what happens is on connection to an local network (not hotspot) the network time server sync’s the norns internal clock (which has no hardware clock) which causes sc to go 100%. the temporary fix is to ssh into the norns after connecting and restarting the software:

cd norns
./stop.sh
./start.sh

but i’m working on fixing this now-- automatically restarting the audio server when you connect to wifi.

also that htop shot looks pretty normal?

do scripts work when you don’t use wifi?


i tested mlr extensively yesterday and did not succeed at crashing it. any tips would be appreciated, with details. ie, using midi, wifi, etc.

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Was lucky enough to find a Norns 2nd hand in UK. Wondering if the USB power supply provided is universal and comes with interchangeable parts for use in North America, or will I have to find a new power supply?

On Norns details it states-
power

power/charge via USB-mini (high output USB power supply included).
internal lipo battery 2250mAh.

If It’s the original it’s universal (110-240v). I use it in Italy with a simple adaptor.

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You bet. At the moment, I’m stress testing Earthsea with:

  • Running 4 notes of MIDI from the Digitakt with a longish gate length on every step at 120 bpm
  • WiFi not connected

Going to let that burn in and see what happens.

The htop output was taken immediately following a crash with the conditions described in this message and with WiFi connected. Which more or less affirms your observation.

I’ll move on to testing mlr later today.

Bit of a late report here, but I was experiencing mlr crashes reliably every 15 minutes or so over the weekend.

I had WiFi, grid, and arc connected, in that order from right to left looking directly at the back of the box.

WiFi in hotspot mode.

Also saw weird cursor sync issues when looping. This was super consistent for me:

Uh, file too big. Description: if I set a loop by pressing start then end a few buttons later (replicated w/ 2-6 step lengths) the audio would play correctly, but after 1-3 loops the ‘cursor’ location would shift one step to the right for 1-2 loops, then correct itself.

I’ll upload the video somewhere and update with link.

New Norns from last batch, btw.