#1769

Was having this issue myself, and others suggested elsewhere that it’s a known issue due to having too many scripts on the norns (guilty as charged!). I deleted 8-9 scripts and this hasn’t happened again. You might give it a shot.

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#1770

That sounds like a plan! Thanks for the tip!

#1771

can you check the sc tab in maiden?

try typing ;restart

#1772

This is on your DIY setup, right?

What pi are you running?

(Can’t search messages right now but…) I think someone else ran into repeated supercollider fails with a regular pi 3b (as opposed to a 3b+ or 4b). Changing Jack settings seemed to help.

#1773

When I have the issue, the sc tab shows ‘SC not connected’

I can try and reproduce the issue (of course for now it’s not showing up).

@okyeron
I believe this is on a Pi3b, not 3b+ I’d be happy to try the jackd settings changes.

I’m going to initially attempt to make the issue reoccur right now, and see what I can get from maiden.

#1774

(some very random debugging - not sure I can reproduce)

Just had the loading error followed by Supercollider Fail error after ;restart. At this point cpu was reporting like 97% so I checked top and saw

410 we 20 0 103156 33480 7732 S 100.5 3.5 4:45.27 sclang

which is sclang using 100.5%+ of the cpu.

After this I did a stop.sh and start.sh and things seemed to be working again, but then I tried stopping the systemctl services and got this;

Cannot read socket fd = 5 err = Success
CheckRes error
JackSocketClientChannel read fail
Cannot read socket fd = 10 err = Success
CheckRes error
JackSocketClientChannel read fail

restarting the systemctl services threw this (repeating):

JackLinuxFutex::Signal name = jack_sem.1000_default_system already deallocated!!
JackLinuxFutex::Signal name = jack_sem.1000_default_freewheel already deallocated!!
ResumeRefNum error

I was apparently on an older release on this Pi so some of this could be related to softcut changes - I’d loaded mangl and glut and had a few errors that tipped me off to norns not being updated

I’ll keep an eye out for any repeats of this weirdness

#1775

Hi!
I have a Norns en route and have a pretty basic question. I’ve been following and reading threads here, watching videos, everything you can think of and I’m a bit unsure of where to start with Norns once it arrives. The sampling/looping style scripts really interest me so getting audio into the device is probably the first thing I want to tackle.

Is it pretty easy to figure out how to get live audio into the various scripts? Are most users using live audio, or are they recording little snippets into softcut(?) and then dropping them into a script?

My understanding of how the device and UI actually works is a bit skewed because I mostly am just heading the wonderful music everyone is making with it :slight_smile:

Maybe I’m overthinking this all, I think I’m just a bit excited to dive in this weekend.

Thanks!!

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#1776

I think it’ll become pretty apparent which scripts focus on live sampling vs. those that require pre-recorded audio once you start playing around :slight_smile: Glut and Playfair, to cite two well-known examples, require samples being loaded in. MLR, though, can be used for live looping and sample-based work. They’re all great.

From personal experience, I tend to spend a lot of time with live-looping scripts to record material, which I’ll then use later in other ways/scripts.

Have fun, and come back with questions if you have any!

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#1777

Thats what I figured! It seems like I have a hard time understanding how to navigate the device itself without actually having it in my hands. There really hasn’t been a “tutorial” style video with someone navigating the basic functions/built in parts of the device, which is kinda cool!

I appreciate the info a lot. When you mention using “live-looping scripts to record material”, are you saying that I can record the output of a script into norns via softcut and then using that for something else later? Seems pretty nifty.

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#1778

Yes, indeed! It’s one of Norns’ great strengths. You can record the inputs and/or the output of any script to internal storage using the built-in tape. Check out the main doc page for more info if you haven’t yet — there’s a lot of helpful functionality/navigation info there.

Navigation takes a minute to get a hold of, but then becomes second nature, imo.

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#1779

If you haven’t already done so then I’d grab cyberduck and set up a git account and fill it up with any scripts that seem interesting from the norns library thread.
I’m finding other people’s scripts my main way of learning to write code, also this forum is unusually helpful and civilised. Do the studies, they are worth doing.
Book a load of time off, this thing eats days but it does so I’m a lovely way.

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#1780

Second this. It took me a lot of poking around to understand the UI, but now it feels like an extension of myself. I’d also recommend Otis as a great script for understanding how to get audio into norns, loop it, play it backwards, record the output, etc. Scripts like MLR and Cranes are amazing after that, because they map that functionality to a monome grid.

Also, would there be an appetite for a very basic “getting started” video for norns? I would be happy to take that on if there’s interest; though I also feel that there’s value in throwing yourself in the deep end and figuring it out.

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#1781

yes please, would love to see a ‘getting started’ video. just bought myself a used norns from this forum. can’t wait to dive in.
been reading this forum and the documentation, but still can’t really grasp it. maybe i should just wait till i get to hands on with it.

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#1782

Ahhh! That sounds great. Thank you for the info/link. Excited :slight_smile:

@sensum_clunch, thanks for that tip. I’m going to get on that right now! been following the library threads for quite some time now. Ooof, I guess it was a bad idea to grab this when my semester started… sounds like I’ll be a little distracted.

@mattlowery thank you for the info as well. I’ll give Otis a shot for sure.
I think it’d be interesting to see a video, but I do agree that some of the fun is just jumping in I guess! I could see it help people who are on the fence on purchasing a Norns understand how it works a bit better.

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#1783

sorry to change subjects here, but i was curious of everyone’s thoughts regarding norns as a sampler.

i love the tools available re: softcut, and there’s clearly been a focus on live sampling of input instruments on norns - but is there any viability or resources for pre-made samples being used on norns?

i want to use norns and a grid live but as an instrumentalist, i’m a drummer - and one not interested in midi triggers. i don’t feel like norns needs to process my sound but i’d love to use it alongside my drum sound. all this to say - i want to glitch and manipulate samples with norns and the grid as an interface, but i don’t want to be generating these samples live.

do i have the right tools for the job?

#1784

still in beta but take a look at Timber Player

#1785

Besides Timber player, you might actually dig using Orca to create patches for this. You can basically set many parameters and have buttons of the grid be programmed. Throw in a bit of randomized or probabilistic softcut, you got a great way to access the timber player and program each grid key!

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#1786

How do I use a Norns grid sequencer script to play a Norns midi controlled synth script?

Thank you.

#1787

it’s currently not possible to run two scripts at once, but it may be somewhat trivial to modify a sequencer script to use a particular synth.

which combination are you hoping for?

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#1788

Is there any reason E1 requires a little extra spinning before going into menu nav?

Do you use the Librarian updater script to keep your scripts updated?

Having bought a second hand unit, the usb cable has a 90 degree connector which covers a usb port when charging. Is this normal or did I get the wrong cable?

Thank you!