Norns Mother (Organelle Patches on Norns)

static · 2020-03-29T04:04:21.898Z

I know it’s not the mio, as it’s plug-and-play and it was working perfectly fine before this most current update. Additionally, I know that it could still potentially work as my configuration has not changed otherwise. Here is another thing, maybe this is patch specific - for instance, the one that I’m using is Arp-III (AAARRRPPP), and it doesn’t actually show midi data going out on the indicator next to the O. I feel like that is somehow related. Yet it works (the led feedback) with QuNexus connected directly… shrugging. I mean, the indicator still shows no midi out, but the led feedback works anyway with QuNexus directly plugged in. Hmmmmm.

Oxbown · 2020-03-29T11:46:21.976Z

Ok, I think that I know what is going on… The reason that the midi out indicator does not respond to some patches is how the patches send the notes to midi…I think I could fix it on the next releases.
Thanks for the feedback @static !

kburwash · 2020-03-29T21:08:06.477Z

ok, how to make the pokemons!!?!!?!?!? hahaha

i installed mother/sidekick/orac seems to work. put the pokehex in the patches folder. it shows up but gets stuck loading. do i need something else?

Oxbown · 2020-03-30T18:24:17.726Z

New Update v0.3.1

Adapted structure to new Sidekick v0.2
New patches folder “/home/we/sidekick/patches/Organelle”
Deleted “Update Mother”, future updates have to be made using the Sidekick “Check for Updates” function.

Unfortunately, this update has to be made by hand, so log in to Norns via terminal and paste the installation code:

sudo curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/oxbown/NornsMother/master/install.sh | sh

encephalitislethargi · 2020-03-30T18:49:18.371Z

has anyone gotten any of those morphagene patches working/are they worth it?

mcpepe · 2020-03-30T18:53:46.972Z

-I updated to Sidekick v0.2 without problems. I could see the new menu structure.
-Then I updated to Norms Mother v0.3.1 with your instructions. Everything OK.
-I lost the 3-4 pure data patches I had installed, so I tried to access the SD card to copy a few patches, but now I had only access to the Dust folder. (I sucessfully did a few days ago the modifications Oxbown explained in message 37), but maybe this was broken by the new installations. So I decided to do again the instructions from message 37, the rebooted and now my Fates only shows a black screen. I can do nothing. I tried pressing the 3 encoders and nothing. Nothing shows in the screen.
I can access Norms via ssh normally. What can I do so I can see again the menus?

Oxbown · 2020-03-30T18:55:06.129Z

Norns updates overwrite Samba configuration, you have change the folder one more time…

mcpepe · 2020-03-30T18:58:57.907Z

Yes. This is what I did. But now my Fates doesn’t start. I see nothing in the screen when I turn it on.

TheTechnobear · 2020-03-30T19:14:53.974Z

I thought, id install NornsMother to see I could see if there were any issues

so I did

Oxbown:

sudo curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/oxbown/NornsMother/master/install.sh | sh

but I get

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 nornsmother : Depends: amidiauto (>= 1.01-2) but it is not installable

is this a manual step? or are you installing it?

Hlp · 2020-03-30T19:22:58.922Z

I d be so great to have a pre compiled norns/shield image with sidekick and mother on, this is getting so complex… but totaly amazing work.

Do the patches from Shreeswifty / fluidsynth work? Like count2five and jupiter etc?
Or is theres any reason they would not?

static · 2020-03-30T19:24:58.771Z

Oxbown:

sudo curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/oxbown/NornsMother/master/install.sh | sh

Same issue here. Carefully followed all steps, but now I’m at a blank screen.

TheTechnobear · 2020-03-30T19:27:24.778Z

Hlp:

I d be so great to have a pre compiled norns/shield image

sidekick is installed with one line … (same with nornsmother)

building a 4GB+ image and hosting that , is not really viable

k, I know we some ‘teething issues’ but really Norns Mother is pretty new, so its not that surprising.
(even norns updates are not without issues and regressions)

Oxbown · 2020-03-30T19:28:41.950Z

Could you log in to Norns via Terminal?

robotfunk · 2020-03-30T19:32:07.742Z

Should I be able to just put patches in nested subdirectories inside Organelle directory? That’s what I did and they just get stuck on Launch… patch name.
CA Additive gets stuck beyond pressing three buttons to go back.

TheTechnobear · 2020-03-30T19:37:32.224Z

for those with a blank screen,

ssh into it, and type the following:

journalctl -u sidekick

this will display the log file.

you can paste contents here
inside the discourse details tags
e.g

[details]
paste stuff
[/details]

also try deleting ~/sidekick/sidekick-state.json

this would stop it trying to load last patch…
(though that should not crash anything)

also you an reinstall sidekick, that should clean it up again
(but getting log file above would be useful for us to see whats going on)

Hlp · 2020-03-30T19:40:41.749Z

Yup but i just stumbled into norns actually so a bit over my head, yet these organelle patches are pretty much up my alley and resemble that i want my norns to be a very flexible library of things, totaly minimalized setup…

mcpepe · 2020-03-30T19:44:20.781Z

TheTechnobear:

or those with a blank screen,

ssh into it, and type the following:
journalctl -u sidekick
this will display the log file.

you can paste contents here

This is what I get when I do it:

~

lines 1-43/43 (END)…skipping…

– Logs begin at Mon 2020-03-30 14:09:18 CDT, end at Mon 2020-03-30 14:41:35 CDT

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns sidekick[118]: unable to load preferences file : ./sidekic

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns sidekick[118]: ./sidekick.json preferences file cannot be

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Main process exited, code=ex

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Failed with result 'exit-cod

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Service RestartSec=100ms exp

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Scheduled restart job, resta

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns systemd[1]: Stopped Sidekick service for norns.

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns systemd[1]: Started Sidekick service for norns.

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns sidekick[135]: unable to load preferences file : ./sidekic

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns sidekick[135]: ./sidekick.json preferences file cannot be

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Main process exited, code=ex

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Failed with result 'exit-cod

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Service RestartSec=100ms exp

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Scheduled restart job, resta

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns systemd[1]: Stopped Sidekick service for norns.

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns systemd[1]: Started Sidekick service for norns.

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns sidekick[140]: unable to load preferences file : ./sidekic

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns sidekick[140]: ./sidekick.json preferences file cannot be

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Main process exited, code=ex

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Failed with result 'exit-cod

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Service RestartSec=100ms exp

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Scheduled restart job, resta

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns systemd[1]: Stopped Sidekick service for norns.

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns systemd[1]: Started Sidekick service for norns.

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns sidekick[144]: unable to load preferences file : ./sidekic

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns sidekick[144]: ./sidekick.json preferences file cannot be

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Main process exited, code=ex

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Failed with result 'exit-cod

Mar 30 14:09:19 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Service RestartSec=100ms exp

Mar 30 14:09:19 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Scheduled restart job, resta

Mar 30 14:09:19 norns systemd[1]: Stopped Sidekick service for norns.

Mar 30 14:09:19 norns systemd[1]: Started Sidekick service for norns.

Mar 30 14:09:19 norns sidekick[167]: unable to load preferences file : ./sidekic

Mar 30 14:09:19 norns sidekick[167]: ./sidekick.json preferences file cannot be

Mar 30 14:09:19 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Main process exited, code=ex

Mar 30 14:09:19 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Failed with result 'exit-cod

Mar 30 14:09:19 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Service RestartSec=100ms exp

Mar 30 14:09:19 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Scheduled restart job, resta

Mar 30 14:09:19 norns systemd[1]: Stopped Sidekick service for norns.

Mar 30 14:09:19 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Start request repeated too q

Mar 30 14:09:19 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Failed with result 'exit-cod

Mar 30 14:09:19 norns systemd[1]: Failed to start Sidekick service for norns.

~

TheTechnobear · 2020-03-30T19:47:17.701Z

mcpepe:

Mar 30 14:09:18 norns sidekick[140]: ./sidekick.json preferences file cannot be

whats happened to ~/sidekick/sidekick.json ?
it appears to either be missing, wrong permissions , or incorrectly formatted

robotfunk · 2020-03-30T19:47:37.672Z

had to sudo shutdown now to get out of stuck “Launch… CA Additive”
Now I also get a black screen.

– Logs begin at Mon 2020-03-30 21:32:53 CEST, end at Mon 2020-03-30 21:45:45 CEST. –

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns sidekick[131]: unable to load preferences file : ./sidekick.json

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns sidekick[131]: ./sidekick.json preferences file cannot be loaded

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=255/EXCEPTION

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Failed with result ‘exit-code’.

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Service RestartSec=100ms expired, scheduling restart.

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 2.

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns systemd[1]: Stopped Sidekick service for norns.

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns systemd[1]: Started Sidekick service for norns.

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns sidekick[137]: unable to load preferences file : ./sidekick.json

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns sidekick[137]: ./sidekick.json preferences file cannot be loaded

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=255/EXCEPTION

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Failed with result ‘exit-code’.

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Service RestartSec=100ms expired, scheduling restart.

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 3.

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns systemd[1]: Stopped Sidekick service for norns.

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns systemd[1]: Started Sidekick service for norns.

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns sidekick[145]: unable to load preferences file : ./sidekick.json

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns sidekick[145]: ./sidekick.json preferences file cannot be loaded

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=255/EXCEPTION

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Failed with result ‘exit-code’.

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Service RestartSec=100ms expired, scheduling restart.

Mar 30 21:32:53 norns systemd[1]: sidekick.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 4.

TheTechnobear · 2020-03-30T19:49:05.205Z

hmm, ok…

so Ive installed Norns Mother and also minimoog (first patch I grabbed off patchstorage)
rebooted, and still seems to be ok for me