Norns Mother (Organelle Patches on Norns)

mlogger · 2020-09-01T06:34:46.765Z

Great, glad you got it sorted. I have a lot of Automatonism patches I need to go through and will post here when I get time.

memory · 2020-09-02T00:45:28.617Z

so basically fates plus a midi keyboard can replace my organelle v1?

okyeron · 2020-09-02T04:06:51.261Z

kinda, yeah?

FWIW - I have a mechanical keyswitch keyboard (with pots) coming soon that is in the Organelle layout - so it could be used as a midi controller with orac/norns-mother + fates to do what the organelle does (I hope)

memory · 2020-09-02T07:17:03.289Z

i too would like to do this too with the op1

is there a list of working and non working organelle patches?

okyeron · 2020-09-05T00:19:20.988Z

Heya @Oxbown !

Are the MIDI Map CC numbers (28/26) for the Menu Encoder and Menu Encoder Button something standard for Organelle or Organelle patches? Or is this just something you’ve implemented in Norns Mother?

Looking at the Organelle manual - I don’t see those mapped anywhere and 26 is mentioned as “replace[ing] the current value used by the Organelle for an expression-style pedal”

robotfunk · 2020-09-05T09:42:55.674Z

Do you mean an upcoming DIY project to build such a thing?

Gerald_Stevens · 2020-09-05T14:23:08.219Z

I think they were set in the original mother.pd patch. I ran into this because I’d like to use my komplete m32 with norns mother, but the m32 stupidly has fixed cc’s . The first 4 match norns mother, but then they don’t.

Critter & Guitari – 7 Mar 17

Changing MIDI CC Input

Follow these steps to change the default MIDI CC input on the Organelle: Eject the USB drive in your Organelle and place it in a USB port on your computer. Download PureData on your computer if you have not already. Download mother.pd. A version of...

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okyeron · 2020-09-05T16:05:59.040Z

robotfunk:

Do you mean an upcoming DIY project to build such a thing?

Yep

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#omx_25 talking to @oxbown_’s norns mother with Juno104 patch loaded. . (“Norns...

kasselvania · 2020-09-05T16:06:28.486Z

It just looks so USEFUL! Very excited for this to come to fruition!

Oxbown · 2020-09-06T19:04:49.628Z

@okyeron original organelle mother has no midi input to control the Menu Encoder, but NornsMother has these controls.
I chose CC numbers 28 and 26 because I thought that they were free.

CC 28 (0 to 127) —> encoder turn
CC 26 (0 to 63) —> encoder button release
CC 26 (64 to 127) —> encoder button press

Oxbown · 2020-09-06T19:12:47.306Z

You have to edit the CC numbers manually in mother.pd (midi section)

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memory · 2020-10-16T22:42:28.249Z

So pokehex is definitely NOT working on fates as it does on organelle – but this dude has it working like it does on the organelle – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N1F9MoC3xE&ab_channel=mlogger

–setting the sample points does nada – i can still scroll through the pokemon and play their full sounds with button 1. I dropped the zip via sftp, not sure what I am doing wrong. other organelle patches working fine. should i redo my sidekick install? @TheTechnobear? anyone else with full pokehex functionality? i can use the encoders to set the sample points but it doesnt loop (or change the sound at all) like on organelle. fates is on a pi4b – i just deleted and added the patch same behavior

apt show nornsmother
Package: nornsmother
Version: 0.3.2
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: sound
Maintainer: Oxbown oxbown@icloud.com
Installed-Size: unknown
Depends: sidekick (>= 0.2.0-5)
Download-Size: unknown
APT-Manual-Installed: yes
APT-Sources: /var/lib/dpkg/status
Description: Organelle patches on Norns via Sidekick.
See https://github.com/oxbown/NornsMother/ for more information

memory · 2020-10-16T23:01:53.514Z

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see how on the organelle it is lit up (it is looping) — on fates that functionality and the scenes functionality which would be menu encoder press on organelle (3+1 buttons on fates) doesn’t work either

it is like loop.pd and the rest inside of pokehex arent working — but i can still play the samples.

mlogger · 2020-10-17T02:47:39.632Z

"So pokehex is definitely NOT working on fates as it does on organelle – but this dude has it working like it does on the organelle – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N1F9MoC3xE&ab_channel=mlogger "

@memory
What I do is :
drop the unzipped folder in home/we/sidekick/patches/Organelle
in the main menu - press “Refresh Menu”
Then goto the Organelle folder and start the patch.
I do not load Orac to play the script.

The only difference here is I’m not on the latest version of Norns Mother

memory · 2020-10-30T00:20:23.383Z

@mlogger that is exactly what i did except i think i am on the latest version of norns mother – mind telling me what version you are running?

memory · 2020-10-30T00:54:16.176Z

and is there any advice on downgrading my version of norns mother?

mlogger · 2020-10-31T00:19:24.360Z

Not sure were to find that info tbh on which version I have.

Magicdip · 2020-11-24T07:33:38.671Z

Anyway to get hdmi out working on this so we can edit pure data patches directly on the fates dac(I guess maybe norns doesn’t have hdmi out) like you would the organelle?
I’ve tried to run it and just got some illegible errors that show up on the fates screen. Nothing shows on the monitor.

mlogger · 2020-11-24T13:57:52.720Z

There reference to it in this video (@6:50 mins) going through Orac but I have never tried. https://youtu.be/Ukzc3W_lcjk

Magicdip · 2020-11-24T14:49:02.730Z

@TheTechnobear

The video says that you should be able to just plug hdmi into fates and get a programming interface. It has a method to program for norns and fates I guess I will use that, but it would be much better to use hdmi from the fates directly.