What are you using to get MIDI out of BigWig and into the Norns? I believe you need something like a Mio2 USB MIDI host. That’s what I use to get MIDI from Ableton to the Norns.

I’ve tried a 2host device, made by @okyeron. Not sure if anybody else has had any success with using that device to get midi in to the Mother/sidekick side of a FATES board…

Any thouhts?

What’s not working?

You may need to do some midi plumbing on the pi with aconnect?

Yeah, I will try some aconnect stuff, which I am incredibly new to, so that might take a moment. All I’ve tried is plugging it in to the norns thats running mother and forwarding some midi that way. I will try some aconnect stuff later today. Any initial thoughts on things I might want to look for?

Wish there was a easier way too install this. Impossible for me and I tried a bunch of times. I’ve given up.

i don’t remember exactly how i did it, but i eventually got midi in working perfectly in orac and nornsmother a little while ago. here are the notes i took during that time, if they help at all:

Summary

Midi connection manager:

https://community.blokas.io/t/midi-connection-manager/567/32

Blokas

Amidiauto has a config file, for complex devices like Launchpad should be made a rule:

You can try this:
1. Log in to Norns via ssh.
2. Edit de amidiauto config file:
sudo nano /etc/amidiauto.conf
1. Paste the following code (ensure that is the exact name of your device, in your case “Launchpad Pro”):
[allow]
Launchpad Pro <-> Pure Data

  1. Save and exit. Use ctrl+X --> yes
  2. Reload amidiauto service using the following code:
    sudo systemctl restart amidiauto
    Try this configuration opening a patch…
    1. Check the connection using the following command
      aconnect -l

EXTRA:
There is a way to connect all midi devices automatically to Pure Data using amidiauto.
Put like this:

From https://llllllll.co/t/norns-mother-organelle-patches-on-norns/30237/109

WORKING LPP Post-Patch for Sidekick Directory (norns mother/orac):

#connect to midi to pd process if it exists, so wait for pd to start
sleep 1
#default usb device is on 20:0 but may be different for other devices!
aconnect 28:1 129:1
aconnect 28:1 129:0

To ensure that Nanokontrol2 midi in also works in orac and nornsmother in addition to launchpad pro:

I recommend you to use amidiauto config file, put like this
[allow]

  • <-> Pure Data
    And in post-patch.sh put
    aconnect “Launchpad Pro:1” “Pure Data:0”
    aconnect “Pure Data:1” “Launchpad Pro:1”

From https://llllllll.co/t/re-norns-mother-organelle-patches-on-norns/30592/25

i use this cable:
https://www.lightinthebox.com/en/p/usb-to-midi-keyboard-interface-converter_p313877.html?currency=USD&litb_from=paid_adwords_shopping&country_code=us&utm_source=google_shopping&utm_medium=cpc&adword_mt=&adword_ct=404017183573&adword_kw=&adword_pos=&adword_pl=&adword_net=u&adword_tar=&adw_src_id=2907233386_8428521307_85505067305_pla-656278395770&gclid=CjwKCAjwxev3BRBBEiwAiB_PWH4ffEc_1_rGeayVmuPfppvUzwUkNhjmHHshyMiXkCPZ75-ZDaNSHRoCDg4QAvD_BwE

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Thanks so much! I’ll go through this later. I’m excited to possibly sequence Koto!

Boy oh boy… I mean, I got some midi in there, but holy shit, it sounded weird and terrible. I experienced an insane amount of lag and the sound coming out was bizarre and extremely dissonant… I will need to explore more and see whats up, but when I restarted the dang machine, the midi stopped working again… Super odd…

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sorry, i didn’t have that problem once i finally setup the midi connection manager. but i’ve since re-flashed the sd card so i doubt that those settings are saved, although i could be wrong about that.

I actually just reinstalled Orac and Norns Mother for the first time since then, like over a month or two ago but haven’t gotten a chance to try out the midi again yet because i’m having problems

Does anyone know why when i go to Sidekick, then select “Organelle” in that main menu, it takes me straight to some patch i dont recognize? i don’t see the list of patches and i cant back out of that one patch without going back to the main “Orac, Norns, Organelle” menu. I can’t remember if “Organelle” was even the option to select to enter norns mother. Should I have a Norns Mother option in that menu? Is the directory structure still home/we/sidekick/patches/organelle?

i may have to reinstall all of that

It happened to me before, there is a patch which confuses the mother pd . Uninstall and when back install one patch at a time and check again. there is a specific procedure to uninstall.

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Sounds like you have put a patch directly into the organelle directory , rather than as a sub directory.
ie you’ll probably find a main.pd in the organelle directory.

How’s this happen?
Either you unpacked it incorrectly or the person that created the patch did not package it correctly.

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thank you. So uninstall Norns Mother and then install each patch one at a time?

yes until you find the patch that is causing the problem.

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Sorry if this is already answered in the thread (didn’t find it). I noticed I can map the channel (?) for the encoders in midi.txt, but not which CC is being used. Is there a way to set this up?

Context: I’m trying to hook-up the OP-1 which has the knobs fixed to CC1-CC4

here’s a auto generating thing made in automatonism

download patch - shambles.zip (1.1 MB)

unzip
drop the unzipped folder in home/we/sidekick/patches/Organelle
in the main menu - press “Refresh Menu”
Then goto the Organelle folder and start the patch
twist the knobs :slight_smile:

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I’m also wondering if someone can explain this to me.

Doesn’t seem to work properly on mine. I’m on FATES and I can’t change instrument

I’m not seeing the home/we/sidekick/patches/Organelle folder. How is it seen?

I have the latest Orac installed first then Norns Mother installed. I think that folder appears from the Orac install https://github.com/TheTechnobear/NuiLite/wiki/Install-and-Updating

Should I see the folder in dust or with Maiden?

Maiden no - it doesn’t view all the files on Norns. You need some FTP software - I use cyberduck to view the file structure of Norns and transfer all my files that way.

https://cyberduck.io/

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