#8

I’ve been thinking a little about this, too, and have to agree with @infovore- just making a panel to hold the unit in a Eurorack case might not be as great an idea as it may initially seem.

An alternative might be just to connect it to a decent USB MIDI to CV/Gate interface, and/or a dedicated Eurorack USB audio interface.

Expert Sleepers make good candidates for both roles in their ES-8 and FH-2 modules. I have both, and can vouch for their quality (apart from the slightly loose jack sockets).

I’m assuming that Norns is able to access external USB MIDI and audio IO devices (I’m a Norns noob, so haven’t tried either, yet).

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#9

Or an Ansible, of course, assuming you want to keep it Monome all the way…

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#10

Forget this, it will bug probably a lot … Knowing that a 3.1A supply is preferred :wink:

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#11

Oh wow thank you for all the good thoughts. Thank @zzsnzmn@toneburst and @infovore for the heads up and good tips. I don’t have any other Monome gear (referring to Ansible) and would love to have everything in my/one rack. Even if I glue it (joke) onto a panel in my rack. :wink: I think the Expert Sleepers Idea is really good actually.

#12

A lot of cases use a Meanwell RT65b as the psu. Whatever else its failings, it supplies 5A on the 5V rail… so not totally impractical to use a raspberry pi in a eurorack case… you’d reall want to add cv on the front panel though…, it may be worth incorporating something like cv.ocd which is open source or yarns or cvpal - there are a few other open source/arduino/teensy based midi to cv options that could be added… or you could take eg some fragments from the terminal tedium and add that…

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#13

just a thought,

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as i have once fancied having an RPi inside my eurorack case, and since the norns ecosystem also seems to run on a bare RPi (i have not looked in details but the lengthy topic about it makes me think that it does),

maybe using a Terminal Tedium running norns software would be a better way to integrate a norns-machine in a eurorack case ?
(thought it doesn’t remove the need for an external power supply and would probably need some software bridging to get CV ins communicating with norns)
(re.edit: since @forestcaver had the same idea, it probably means it’s not totally off ^^)

#14

Oh ok cv pal seams like a great cost efficient I actually have this with a usb to midi converter. Maybe I could get rid od this then https://www.modulargrid.net/e/hexinverter-Electronique-mutant-brain-silver

#15

I have a https://www.modulargrid.net/e/qu-bit-electronix-nebulae-v2-silver and also started playing around with the internal instrument. Gone have to check what the Tedium sounds like. Thank you.

#16

The lack of a screen makes it a no-no for me. I actually bought a TT board ages ago, but haven’t got round to assembling the module because I’ve come to the conclusion that I dislike the idea of a multi-purpose module like that that gives you no feedback on what the controls do, or even what patch the thing is running.

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#17

ah! i forgot this “little detail”.
(personally it’s not the lack of screen that prevented me from assembling the TT board in my drawer, but the idea of having to sysadmin yet-another-computer).

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#18

my practical brain goes towards modules that have multifunction but have learned recently that if most of your modules are like that, then you are constantly menu diving. For what ever reason, all the options make it hard for me to concentrate on what the patch is doing. probably my animal reptilian brain but still.

I’ve wondered why norns doesn’t have a eurorack version for awhile. at first i thought that was was teletype was. i’m not into the live coding thing.

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#19

I imagine the power issue is the biggest reason. Eurorack was designed for low-power analogue devices, originally. Of course, many modules are now run on relatively low-power MCU chips, but shoe-horning a Linux PC into your Euro rack might be pushing things a little far.

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#20

but isn’t the nebulae basically a PI? thats at least what i heard from someone

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#21

I also don’t know why Im going through this idea. The Norns is so small I could easily put it beside the rack but somehow the eurorack idea kinda drives me. @ermina is the TT something like or exactly like the Norns. It seams to me its like a multitool like the Quitt Nebulae v2 just using its DSP with Csound or PureData?

#22

http://www.northcoastmodularcollective.com/modules/under-development/little-traverse-bay-oled-for-terminal-tedium-eurorack/

There’s an expander for the Terminal Tedium with 2 OLEDs and 2 usb breakouts in case that’s of interest

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#23

Neither, really. It’s essentially a Eurorack breakout board/shield for a Raspberry Pi, with Euro-level audio, CV and trigger i/o.

What you run on it is entirely up to you, though I imagine most will use it as a host for Puredata (pd) patches.

You could install Norns on it, but without a screen, it would arguably not be that useful.

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#24

Would a Norns with CV outs be more or less powerful than an ER-301? Bad comparison?

#25

Ah so you basically connect a rp3 with Norns to it at and you kinda have to believe in the force to know what you want it to do. Its kinda cool I must admit. Is there an YouTube link or more details on it?

#26

i feel like there is a lot of speculation here without strong awareness of how norns actually works.

before further speculation, i’d suggest spending some time getting to know the norns ecosystem:

  • without a screen, norns is basically useless unless you’re designing some other front end and UI, which hasn’t been suggested
  • there’s been no mention of crow, which ostensibly provides CV integration for eurorack. the design philosophy being: a desktop sound computer which connects with one single cable to your rack. yes, you could embed a norns into a panel, but do not underestimate the engineering challenge there.

my recommendation if you want norns to live in your rack or pedalboard, is to low-tech solution it. a big electrical redesign will be a rabbit hole.

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#27

Thank you @tehn but what do you mean with low-tech solution? How I understand it I just need enough space beside and above the Norns to be abled to get the usb/Audio Cables in/out and ad a power solution?! I saw the crow and kinda like what it does and almost bought it as well :slight_smile: