#21

I also don’t know why Im going through this idea. The Norns is so small I could easily put it beside the rack but somehow the eurorack idea kinda drives me. @ermina is the TT something like or exactly like the Norns. It seams to me its like a multitool like the Quitt Nebulae v2 just using its DSP with Csound or PureData?

#22

http://www.northcoastmodularcollective.com/modules/under-development/little-traverse-bay-oled-for-terminal-tedium-eurorack/

There’s an expander for the Terminal Tedium with 2 OLEDs and 2 usb breakouts in case that’s of interest

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#23

Neither, really. It’s essentially a Eurorack breakout board/shield for a Raspberry Pi, with Euro-level audio, CV and trigger i/o.

What you run on it is entirely up to you, though I imagine most will use it as a host for Puredata (pd) patches.

You could install Norns on it, but without a screen, it would arguably not be that useful.

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#24

Would a Norns with CV outs be more or less powerful than an ER-301? Bad comparison?

#25

Ah so you basically connect a rp3 with Norns to it at and you kinda have to believe in the force to know what you want it to do. Its kinda cool I must admit. Is there an YouTube link or more details on it?

#26

i feel like there is a lot of speculation here without strong awareness of how norns actually works.

before further speculation, i’d suggest spending some time getting to know the norns ecosystem:

  • without a screen, norns is basically useless unless you’re designing some other front end and UI, which hasn’t been suggested
  • there’s been no mention of crow, which ostensibly provides CV integration for eurorack. the design philosophy being: a desktop sound computer which connects with one single cable to your rack. yes, you could embed a norns into a panel, but do not underestimate the engineering challenge there.

my recommendation if you want norns to live in your rack or pedalboard, is to low-tech solution it. a big electrical redesign will be a rabbit hole.

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#27

Thank you @tehn but what do you mean with low-tech solution? How I understand it I just need enough space beside and above the Norns to be abled to get the usb/Audio Cables in/out and ad a power solution?! I saw the crow and kinda like what it does and almost bought it as well :slight_smile:

#28

You could mount a norns shield to a euro sized panel, run a set of USB headers from the PI to the panel, audio i/o to the panel… then cut a hole (in your case, or leave 1u/2u open) for the power cable, get one of those push button in-betweens and you’re on your way, (you’ll have to turn it off/on manually and not use euro-power) I think that would be the lowest tech version of doing this I can imagine.

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#29

Velcro to the side, top, front of your case.

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#30

I would think about what your ultimate goals are. Are you trying to reduce setup time, have fewer things to transport, shrink your table footprint, or just achieve a monolithic aesthetic? I’ve confronted this problem with a number of external devices on my videosynth, and I think spending 3U rack space on something not designed for it is rarely the most effective solution.

Velcro to the side of the case is a great strategy. (Or 3M command strips, which pick up less fuzz.) If that’s not slick enough for you, I’ve had success mounting 1/4” tripod attachments or hot/cold shoe camera mounts to the side of my case for giving non-euro gear a quick and sturdy mount point.

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#31

Its all of that. But I also like your other ideas.

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#32

Thats actually kind of where I am going now. I think everything else seams to make no sense. I understand now that nobody else did this before. :slight_smile:

#33

I can’t let go of this basic idea and found a work around for a really kind of easier approach for putting it inside the rack. (And maybe use a Crow or something else). Ill let you know as soon as its close to finished. :slight_smile:

#34

This is how far I got until now. Still very much DIY cardboard stage :slight_smile: I have to find some better cables for USB but I can connect to crow and grid very easy. I use the Ladik Amp for amping up the norns to eurorack level. Also the power is still external. I think Im going to solder something like this https://www.ebay.com/itm/192724603361 At the moment Im using an old Ikea light switch to turn the NornsShield on and of. Next step would be to find a better usb solution and solder the power to the eurorack and then of course a wooden or lasercut plastic/metal housing

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#35

This is the next step in my project. Still really DIY and needs a final makeover because of the different cables popping out, but at least it’s now safe inside the eurorack. I’m still figuring out If I want to connect/solder the Euroack power with a USB adapter I bought but I’m afraid that this will hurt the Norns.

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#36

Any chance you have a template or file for the panel? And how did you end up powering it?

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#37

Yes, I’ll upload it asap. I still use a usb cable because I’m still not sure if I should use the thing I bought.

#38

This is the EPS how I sent it to the laser-cut company in Germany. Please check first if it fits your neads before ordering: VeithMichel_Eurorack_NornsPlate_New.eps (584.9 KB)