Listening to classical music after a session with my modular is really nice. My listening is particularly focused on timbral changes. Classical instruments sound so beautiful and rich. Humans playing style is very sensitive and fragile.

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Comparing humans as sensitive sequencer systems with sequencer modules

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Real time vs mechanical time.
Ebb and flow vs driving pulse.
Natural vs manufactured.

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We can never accomplish the level of musical sensivity of humans with computers or synths. On the other hand we can accomplish many things with computers and synths that human without it couldn’t couldn’t accomplish. Is electronic music a trade off between human sensitivity on the one hand and timbral and rhythmic possibilities on the other?
Just throwing some thoughts around here

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Linnstrument, Roli Seaboard, Haken Continuum, Madrona Soundplane, Eigenharp, Buchla touchplates, Roland GR-55…

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yeah you’re totally right about that :slight_smile:
it’s more an continuum of expression then? on one side the human voice, traditional instruments somewhere in the middle, at the far end generative systems?

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I think that’s a very reasonable way to look at it.

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not that generative systems couldn’t express anything. but what they express doesn’t flow out of human expression from one to one, as is the case when you sing. or can people sing like a generative system as well?

in the end your voice can’t be decouple from your body. a generative system can. so it’s about bodily involvement too. and it’s the body where the human senses are rooted as well.

Biological systems and mechanical systems can absolutely mimic each other, enhance each other, distort/transform each other. But you’re correct to notice that they can’t replace each other.

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All of these require human manipulation. None by itself produce any tone.

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True. Not sure what your point is?

(actually a couple of them have included synths, but I think you’re trying to get at something…)

I notice that my listening practice is changed since I got into modular synthesis. I listen more closely to (changes in) detail and timbre. I listen more to ambient and experimental music. I listen more to classical music too. Maybe my sense of time in music is changed. I like longer, more slowly and subtle moving compositions.

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I think (modular) music changes my mind :slight_smile:

Edit: is my mind also a modular system? :upside_down_face:

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Some interesting reflections on the subject in the present context and more here…

‘Simon McBurney is joined by legendary pioneers Laurie Anderson, Brian Eno and Nitin Sawhney to explore the act of listening’

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re: perceiving change in one’s listening, made me think of this paper (there’s the notion that experiencing a peculiar listening situation may enhance the listener’s awareness towards dimensions of sound ignored until then).

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For me, it was really the process of learning how to listen to different styles of music that helped me move into new listening realms.

Like ambient is a good obvious choice. You don’t listen to ambient in the same way or for the same reasons as you would pop music. Ambient tends to be more of a textural thing, which makes long drawn out minimal tracks a positive. This also works for techno and experimental music listening. Dub music in a lot of ways as well.

Then there’s jazz. Jazz can cover a lot of different styles of listening from harsh noisy free jazz to almost ambient to funky fusion to the more “typical” bop sound and many more.

Once I discovered these ideas it occurred to me that being able to understand music or sound is largely a function of how you approach it in your own head.

Once I got beyond the kind of exploratory period where I searched out as many different sounding musics as I could so I could teach myself how to listen to them, I got more into trying to listen to styles or types of music to match my mood. And from that I got into trying to use other styles to alter my mood.

Not coincidentally this was around the time I became very good at DJing.

These days I really like listening to music played from vinyl over my hifi. This is the ideal manner of listening. I rarely to never use headphones. I listen in the car as well. I don’t have music playing all the time. I enjoy the sounds of my environment as well as silence.

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In a kind of magickal way, humans make music and in turn, music makes humans!

I’m fascinated by the growing field of music therapy. If I had a clone, he’d be studying that!

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This book was the first book I was made to purchase by my guitar instructor when I first began learning to play. To 14-15 year old me, I was definitely too distracted to appreciate it. Its been a while, and I believe there was a fairly rigid stance against electronic music (this is from the mid-late '90s I believe), but still interesting to read a chapter every once and a while.

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Woah! I can’t wait to watch this whole thing…

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