I’m not sure this is what you’re looking for…

I think what would help you here is “starts silent” coupled with one-shot trigs.

On the OT there is an option to “start silent” tracks. So you could be doing your thing on one song/bank, switch over to the next bank and the OT and would still be playing the previous bank until you arm the one-shot trig.

It’s been awhile since I used that trick; in pretty sure it works that way.

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I know you’ve said that you dislike Ableton but it’s by far the easiest thing for the basis of this. If I were you I’d employing Ableton as the kind of background stuff (drums and samples) with one shots, effects and the more enjoyable esoteric stuff from the OT, perhaps.

Personally I love Ableton, especially in this environment, as I always have a tape delay and filterbank set up on the channels and mapped to a controller so that I can constantly mess with the material and keep it “alive”

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I have some stems. A load of tracks I’ll remix in some dirty ways. But no kind of set

I’ll play with that this evening. Thank you.

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I’d suggest starting very simple with a sort of DJ set with those tracks.
Maybe simplify them a bit, export a few sounds individually to play with them while the rest plays in the background.
But if you don’t know the OT at all and have only 4 weeks to prepare 45 min, start VEEEEEERY simple, and practice a lot. You’ll get opportunities to improve and make things more complex, but for now, I would really suggest starting with nothing more than an enhanced DJ set.

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I agree. Will keep it simple. Tempted by Ableton, dunno. I’m going to give myself four days to play and decide. Can anyone suggest a good controller for the OT to make triggering one shots nice and simple?

take some samples…
edit/eq/effect them in ableton
drop into OT and go…
played several shows this way, and its really fun…
even better with 1 track used to capture something external to mangle live.
but you can get really far with just samples… the crossfader, delay repeats and mutes…
especially in a hip hop setting…

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The best way to use Ableton in this context is to pre-warp your track to a few select BPMs to avoid using the timestretch in the OT. Also remember to export to 44100 Hz WAV if you want the OT to play your tracks at the right speed.

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Just saw yesterday that the OTMKII is on clearance at my local guitar center.
I wonder if something is happening with the line or just at guitar center?

Could be a good time to upgrade.

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Might be a local thing as I see them listed for regular price on Guitar Center (online) and Sweetwater.

I’d very much like to see/hear this

Ive been pretty tempted by the Octatrack as I have a small modular that I currently send into ableton. It controls a plaits and then some synths so I get 3-4 tracks out of that. I use an analog Rytm for drums. That gets sync from overbridge in ableton and sends sync to everything else. It’s a pretty nice setup so far.

I make house music and techno so I like to manipulate vocal samples and I’d also like to manipulate stuff from the modular as well. With vocal samples now, my go to move is to grab something from YouTube or splice and repitch the vocal with auto tune and just make it into a new melody. It works pretty well, but I still think sampling is a weak point for me and something I could get stronger at. I also have basses and guitars that I normally play straight into ableton, but I feel like I could get more creative with if I used a sampler.

I mainly want to use ableton for MIDI effects on VSTis, audio FX on tracks coming in and then arrangement.

Does it make sense to get an Octatrack or is that overkill for what I am doing? I also am curious if it make sense to spend a little more for the MKII? I know with my analog rytm, I did get the MKII and i am glad I did, but I have read that the old Octatrack is pretty great as well.

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Your use case makes sense, but there is a risk of the OT tipping the balance toward making your setup feel too complex. There’s a lot of mental overhead that gets added when using the Octatrack in conjuction with other gear, and you only have two hands. I know when I was using the Octatrack, A4, and my 7U modular it started to feel like I wasn’t playing the modular anymore and instead I was babysitting elektron boxes. I’ve since switched to just the OT and modular for this reason. The other thing to keep in mind is whether you want to spend weeks (or more realistically months or years) learning its eccentricities and fitting it into your workflow.

That said, it’s a deeply rewarding instrument and a shapeshifter that can perform many different roles in many different configurations. If your goal is to take pre-recorded sounds or live sample sounds and rearrange how they’re played on the fly then its hard to find something better than the OT.

I would recommend the MKII, get one used to try it out and if you don’t gel with it you’re not out much money. At first glance it doesn’t seem like the OT MKII is as big of a change as the AR or A4, and that might be the case. But the UI is easier to grasp on the newer version, the encoders have a more fluid pot-like feel, and most importantly for me - there’s far greater headroom on the inputs. On the MKI I had to always be careful to make sure I wasn’t clipping the inputs, which sounded terrible and was hard to avoid due to the total lack of metering. On the MKII there’s still no metering but I’d have to really make an effort to clip the inputs which frees up my mind to focus on the music.

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This all day. A track for live sampling something external, using lfos to mess with sample slice / start position, lfos for modulating effects, scenes setup with effects of your choosing, freeze delay. All of this combined makes the ot shine in a live setting. I’ve found it perfect for live sets

Here is a whole set of this. Also using ot cue out in to clouds / three sisters. Ot live sampling the eurorack ( morphagene loaded with synths / samples in tune with the beats ) and samplr.

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All over it, thanks! (Is that a Doze piece over your right shoulder btw?)

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thats what i thought ! its actually an awesome local artist named santos shelton. he painted the inside of the oakland bandcamp office where this was shot.

Oof, damn! That’s wearing his inspiration on his sleeve somewhat!

A little late with this reply, but the only currently available Elektron devices that *don’*t do DIN Sync are the OT and (I believe) the Model: units. On the Rytm, A4, 'takt and 'tone you can switch between MIDI and DIN on either the out or thru port - so you can forsake MIDI completely and control two DIN devices.

A good, cheap solution for DIN on the OT is the Doepfer MSY-2, which also gives you a separate clock out and can be powered by MIDI via a jumper setting. But if you have another modern Elektron box, that’s also a good setup. OT + Digitakt is a favourite, as the DT’s sampling workflow beats the OT’s for many use cases, freeing up the OT tracks for mixing, neighbour effects or advanced sample duties.

Appreciate this reply. I was not able to get a MKII at a price I wanted so I went with the black model. I always wanted the black one anyway, I just like the simplicity of the build. I figure out Elektron gear rather fast for whatever reason so that’s another reason I wanted to use the Octatrack on my modular and to get me sampling more.

The headroom thing is something I read about, I read that its best to record into the MKI pretty hot because the reality is that the red lights are misleading on that one. I will need to figure that one out for myself when I get it.

Just to be clear, Can you send sync from the analog RYTM to the MKI OT with a Midi cable?