#52

they finally put it in a proper case!

#53

http://www.teenageengineering.com/products/oplab

relevantly:

#55

Oh geez. Another oplab?
Last one was a profound crapshoot in my book… hope they got their ducks in a row for this one.

#56

that’s a module that fits inside the new op-z - integrated cv, clock and midi!

i’ve had good results with the op-lab ever since that final firmware rev they did.

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#57

whoa @shellfritsch! So there is some internal expansion room in that tiny case?

#58
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#59

Ah, you are probably right - I forgot about those extensions and hoped there would be the time and the opportunity to revise the OP-1 now that the OP-Z is finally getting released. I have to say I did not follow the OP-Z story too closely though because I can’t see me getting along with the UI.

But I just watched the oplab-series tutorial videos with all the additional controllers and have to say that it is a pity that it did not make it cause it looks like a lot of fun.

#60

it was discontinued about 2 years ago. following what TE answered to me on July 2016.
“Hi Roberto,
Thank you for your email. No the Oplab is no longer in production. The demand was so low that it wasn’t economically viable for us to keep producing them. I found one on ebay for 400 aus dollars for you. I think you could probably find a cheaper one somewhere else. Check out the operator-1 forum and see if you can find one there.”

#61

probably easier to find rack space for ES FH-2, than to rely on TE for connecting the OP1 or OPZ to (or other MIDI gear for that matter).

#63

This seems a pretty cynical change:

Is it just a coincidence the new price was raised to the maximum used price, when people thought it was discontinued?

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#64

technically, this was the latest average used price, not the maximum

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#65

One bummer is that my Op-1 and FH-2 crash when they play together.
I haven’t updated to the most recent FH-2 firmware, but as of the penultimate update they still did it. EDIT: I have since updated FH-2 and now everything works as you’d hope. Nice :slight_smile:

#66

Fair enough, it would be more precise for me to say that the latest monthly average is also the historical maximum monthly average.

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#67

curious to see how anyone can explain away/be cool with this kind of huge price hike… eeesh

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#68

20 chars of Yikes…

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#69

i heard the original screen was discontinued? i imagine if they had to manufacture their own screen to fit the existing units the costs would be really high.

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#70

Something is fishy in new pricing…

#71

Screen tech and production has come along way since 2011.

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#72

It’s likely a combo of the cost of the new OLED screen and an acknowledgement of the perceived value of the instrument in the market.

I thought it was expensive for what it is before, but I know how unpopular that opinion is…

But the price may be entirely justified given the amount of work that went into it, and the cost of materials given the scale of manufacturing they’re engaging in. I really have no idea.

As to whether it’s a worthwhile “investment” I’m not sure I’d ever choose that word to describe a musical instrument. A more pointed question might be “is it a worthwhile instrument for my personal musical goals?”

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#73

I must admit I’m waiting for the kind and informed people of lines to give me a rational explanation for this price bump of a magnitude I have never seen in my life… And if there is one, I’ll also need an explanation for why they don’t publicly provide this explanation. This seems… I’m at loss with words here, really.

Edit: price indexation on resale value (in a period where the product was out of stock and rumoured discontinued) is NOT an explanation, it would just be cynism as a business model and I can’t imagine a firm like TE doing such a thing but maybe I’m just naïve and the world is that bleak.

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