Ornament and Crime

Welcome to lines!

(You’ll find it’s a more supportive environment than where you came from. I’m hopeful it stays that way with the influx of new cultural norms)


O_C is a super utility model. Does just about everything. Wait, I take that back it does a lot in a range of things like CV generation, LFO and S&H, quantization and more. It some things that unique to itself, or hard to replicate in a single module. Some of the apps I haven’t used, they don’t interest me, or haven’t interested me yet. A couple apps I could use in almost every patch. It’s definitely worth having but may not be for everyone.

The menus are a little deep. I don’t think I’ve explored much of what’s there. Everything is super useful.

I wouldn’t call it a module built for live performance. You can’t really play it like an instrument like you can other modules. It’s got two knobs and hundreds of menu options. You also need other modules to make it useful.

Just talking about o_C makes me want to fire up the modular and play with it right now!

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I’ve been reading your hemispheres blog!

Welcome, @chysn! Happy to see Hemispheres discussion opened here :slight_smile: - I built one recently and am just exploring the possibilities!

I think Hemispheres deserves its own topic, it’s a pretty different thing from Ornament and Crime, despite being built on the same platform.

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I have two o_C, one with hemispheres. They are both very different. The original has more depth and complexity but takes more effort. Hemisphere is quick and easy to apply, offering two apps at once makes it pretty flexible,

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Yeah, I tend to see it as a separate module and that would give it more visibility (and perhaps that was the intention behind @chysn’s post, it can certainly be read that way).

As one of the original o_C devs I’d also be a bit adrift without muffwiggler (even if development has slowed, except for a few things in the pipeline). I’ve been lurking here but - for lack of better phrasing - it’s not entirely my scene.

Yeah, I thought I created a new topic, I don’t know what happened there.

Please disregard my post above, as Hemisphere Suite support is not the purpose of this topic. I’ll set up a dedicated support channel elsewhere and provide a link shortly.

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Good to have you on Lines!

If someone wants to tag an admin in, they can move everything after your reply into a new thread

I suspect it was merged by someone. I suspected as much and wanted to say I think this deserves its own topic. I hope this can be sorted out as I think this would be a great place for Hemispheres!

To pull a quote from one of my favorite movies, “Deserve’s got nothin’ to do with it.” It is a separate topic. So instead of running off to a subreddit, I just tried again, hoping that persistence pays off :slight_smile: The Hemisphere Suite Support topic is here, and hopefully this one can go back to being an Ornament and Crime topic.

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This week I decided to dig in and use the shift register a bit (mostly I use quantermain). But so far I haven’t been able to get anything harmonically musical, or musically harmonic? Can confirm that oscillators are in tune and tracking well enough, and I’ve been trying a pentatonic scale to make it more harmonious. However I’m getting a lot of dissonant notes, especially running four oscillators. I’ve been just using the internal turing machine style cv source. Can anyone point me to an example patch that makes good use of the ASR? I have most utilities and sources available

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CopierMaschine is one that I enjoy using. I often end up patching the stepped output from wogglebug to CV1 (CV source) and attenuate the signal either externally or with the o_C’s input gain. Then patch a trig source (e.g. a slow running euclidian sequence) in TR1. Let it run with 0V input until all CV outs output 0V then tune the oscillators to unison. This however is probably as far as you got yourself.

I try to keep the scale mask sparse. root note, minor third and fifth or minor seventh and thats about it. Also I never use all four oscillators simultaneously but rather three at the time and alternate which ones are used with a switch. The magic starts when all oscillators are modulated (e.g. wavefolding) from separate sources and are fed into separate filters. Apply slow modulation to the filter cutoff freq and finally reverb to taste.



I had a similar issue. I’m not sure if it applies to your situation but try recalibrating o+c. It’s a lengthy process but now my pitch cv, across outputs, tracks as i expect.


Sorry if you know this already, but it wasn’t obvious to me when I first started using CopierMaschine: once you’ve turned the left encoder to choose a scale, make sure you click/press the encoder to actually activate it. Until you do that, you’re just scrolling through the list of available scales without changing which one is being used for quantization. The active scale will have a dot next to its name.


Thanks everyone, a few things for me to try here

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Does the Quantermain app handle bipolar input, just wondering if I can feed my Batumi LFOs into it without offsetting it first?

Yes it works. The o_C CV inputs accepts -3.5V to +6.5V in general. Depending on the output voltage of the Bantumi you might have to attenuate it (or offset it… or both).

Hmm with this in mind, would -5v to 5v or 0v to 10v be a better source? I often leave o_c chained after midi input from fh-2.

read the manual. the save procedure is there.