Ornament and Crime

Yeah, I tend to see it as a separate module and that would give it more visibility (and perhaps that was the intention behind @chysn’s post, it can certainly be read that way).

As one of the original o_C devs I’d also be a bit adrift without muffwiggler (even if development has slowed, except for a few things in the pipeline). I’ve been lurking here but - for lack of better phrasing - it’s not entirely my scene.

Yeah, I thought I created a new topic, I don’t know what happened there.

Please disregard my post above, as Hemisphere Suite support is not the purpose of this topic. I’ll set up a dedicated support channel elsewhere and provide a link shortly.

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Good to have you on Lines!

If someone wants to tag an admin in, they can move everything after your reply into a new thread

I suspect it was merged by someone. I suspected as much and wanted to say I think this deserves its own topic. I hope this can be sorted out as I think this would be a great place for Hemispheres!

To pull a quote from one of my favorite movies, “Deserve’s got nothin’ to do with it.” It is a separate topic. So instead of running off to a subreddit, I just tried again, hoping that persistence pays off :slight_smile: The Hemisphere Suite Support topic is here, and hopefully this one can go back to being an Ornament and Crime topic.

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This week I decided to dig in and use the shift register a bit (mostly I use quantermain). But so far I haven’t been able to get anything harmonically musical, or musically harmonic? Can confirm that oscillators are in tune and tracking well enough, and I’ve been trying a pentatonic scale to make it more harmonious. However I’m getting a lot of dissonant notes, especially running four oscillators. I’ve been just using the internal turing machine style cv source. Can anyone point me to an example patch that makes good use of the ASR? I have most utilities and sources available

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CopierMaschine is one that I enjoy using. I often end up patching the stepped output from wogglebug to CV1 (CV source) and attenuate the signal either externally or with the o_C’s input gain. Then patch a trig source (e.g. a slow running euclidian sequence) in TR1. Let it run with 0V input until all CV outs output 0V then tune the oscillators to unison. This however is probably as far as you got yourself.

I try to keep the scale mask sparse. root note, minor third and fifth or minor seventh and thats about it. Also I never use all four oscillators simultaneously but rather three at the time and alternate which ones are used with a switch. The magic starts when all oscillators are modulated (e.g. wavefolding) from separate sources and are fed into separate filters. Apply slow modulation to the filter cutoff freq and finally reverb to taste.



I had a similar issue. I’m not sure if it applies to your situation but try recalibrating o+c. It’s a lengthy process but now my pitch cv, across outputs, tracks as i expect.


Sorry if you know this already, but it wasn’t obvious to me when I first started using CopierMaschine: once you’ve turned the left encoder to choose a scale, make sure you click/press the encoder to actually activate it. Until you do that, you’re just scrolling through the list of available scales without changing which one is being used for quantization. The active scale will have a dot next to its name.


Thanks everyone, a few things for me to try here

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Does the Quantermain app handle bipolar input, just wondering if I can feed my Batumi LFOs into it without offsetting it first?

Yes it works. The o_C CV inputs accepts -3.5V to +6.5V in general. Depending on the output voltage of the Bantumi you might have to attenuate it (or offset it… or both).

Hmm with this in mind, would -5v to 5v or 0v to 10v be a better source? I often leave o_c chained after midi input from fh-2.

read the manual. the save procedure is there.

i usually start from a classic analog shift register patch with copier maschine then use flip flops (or clock dividers) driving both envelopes and sample & holds for the additional voices, each one sparser and with longer notes than the preceding one. this way you get a much more interesting orchestration technique than just the typical ASR.

@dansimco: another trick to get very consonant lines is to use pentatonic scales, they contain intervals that usually blend well with one another when performing chords. primitive but good sounding!
or just make your scale mask containing only the notes you chose. eperiment with different solutions. make a new scale mask each time you try it to further explore meaningful harmonic relations, and enjoy controlled dissonance if you like it (i do)


Turns out my mangrove wasn’t tracking well :man_facepalming:

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Some time ago, I bought a used O_C and later learned that the first trigger/gate input doesn’t work—i.e., when I send a signal to it, there’s no response. Has anyone else encountered this, and is there a fix for it?

That input doesn’t do anything in any mode? It sound like a hardware problem.

Piqued question: I’ve got the latest firmware that adds EOC as trigger input. But the channels don’t seem to trigger an EOC when they’re in ‘looping’ mode (i.e. gate high = yes and max loops = 0). Is this intentional? Means that using Piqued for a Krell patch isn’t as straightforward as I’d hoped - currently working around this by using a comparator to get the EOC trigger.