Pedalboard: Chainable FX for norns

I actually think it’s possible (and I just read the other day someone mentioning that this is how they use norns).

If you go in Parameters/Softcut there is a variable for input tape (after input adc and input engine), which seems to be set to -inf db by default.

but, we don’t loop tape or softcut back to supercollider/engine.

i’ve gone on about this at length. i should have just added the change even though i don’t care for it. still hoping someone wlil PR it for me but it seems unlikely at this point.

qouting myself from here

i would still be happy to provide SC abstractions for putting TAPE-like functionality (better!) in your engines directly.

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that’s making Tape available as an input into Softcut, but the Engine system is separate from Softcut, and Tape is not available as an input into the Engines system :+1:

No worries! Apologies I couldn’t find this in the threads / in the official norns docs quickly :sweat_smile: I think it’d be cool to do, but it’s definitely not something I’m up in arms about or anything :hugs: agreed with the concerns you’ve laid out in that initial post :+1:

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i’ll just add it. my main problem is that mix routes aren’t without cost on norns - they aren’t ad-hoc patch cables, they are permanent fixtures. every time we add a route it takes a little bite out of crone CPU budget.

my second issue is just adding more menu-diving controls - it’s a bad form UI factor for a complex feedback mixer.

finally, i’d be more enthusiastic about this if we put the work in to make TAPE a little more polished - envelopes, looping, pause etc.

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Ah, I see. I got confused between the files generated by the tapes (when the recording ends) and the tape actually running itself. Thanks for the clear explanations, both of you.

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this seems like a really elegant solution! it might add to the menu diving within a specific script when pursuing a specific purpose, but it wouldn’t impact the more general experience of the tape as it exists. you could record something to tape and then simply play it back through pedalboard (or greyhole, or delayyyyyy or what have you) and then record it to a new slice of tape! it seems like there would be no difference between this and the ability to play the tape through pedalboard from a users perspective, seems like a win win if i understand correctly…

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Beads isn’t yet open-sourced. Once the code is released we can look into compiling a supercollider synthdef for it, then use that in Pedalboard :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Hello.

I installed this today and was wondering if someone could explain why resonator and granular are unavailable to select.

Many thanks

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Assuming you installed the latest version, selecting them should send you through the install flow, which ends with a reboot, and after reboot they should be selectable.

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Ah OK. That seems to be downloading it now.

Many thanks.

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Looking forward to trying out Pedalboard with a new electric fretless bass I’ve got arriving later today!

I don’t have a guitar amp.

So I’ll try plugging bass (with passive pickups) directly into my norns shield. That should be ok right?

I’ll also try plugging bass into my audio interface first, then monitor output into norns. Then norns output back into audio interface. Might be good for recording dry and wet signals on different tracks in a DAW.

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A passive bass will need some kind of preamp for Norns. You might have something that does that already (pedals/etc.) maybe ?

Yes, I have a Scarlett 18i8 audio interface which has mic preamps. Looks like my plan for a lighter setup goes out the window!

Pedalboard has a global input gain that can boost your input enough to work out (up to +20 dB). The downside is it’s digital gain, so you’ll get some digital noise. Try it out, though, it may be good enough for your use case! Otherwise I use a small clean boost pedal before going into norns (Seven Sisters Lily Boost - Red Witch Pedals is tiny, pretty flat EQ, and rechargeable)

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Thanks. I’ll give my current setup a try first.

Was thinking my next G.A.S. purchase might be an EBow or Aeon string sustainer.

:tada: Version 2.3.0 (3385b40) is now live. Available in Maiden (sometimes it takes a few minutes to show up) or as a ZIP file

The big change: Crowify! Now you can map Crow’s inputs to Pedalboard params. Use the params page to choose which params are controlled by which Crow input, along with some other fiddly things about how the mapping works

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Love this! I use it a lot but it happens quite often that the buttons stop working for some reason. I then need to reset the Norns and then they work again. Do you know what can cause this? Sorry if this has been raised before. Tried to look through the thread.

Thanks!

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Hmmm, that’s never happened to me. Are you on norns or shield? Are you on the latest version of both norns and this script?

A similar issue was reported and fixed in version 2.2.2 (0323837) Pedalboard: Chainable FX for norns - #127 by 21echoes

But the latest version is 2.3.0 (3385b40). When you select the script and scroll to the bottom of the pre-launch instructions, what version # do you see? And in maiden, what version hash do you see?

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This happens to me as well. Running the latest version of norns (210706) and Pedalboard (2.3.0) on a Shield.

The primary repro case for me is to Sleep norns while Pedalboard is active, then next time I power it up, with Pedalboard as the active script on boot, button response will worsen over the course of a few minutes. Attempting to load into a different script will hang on the “loading…” screen.

After I pull the plug and start the norns again, it boots with no active script and works normally.

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Gotcha – I’ll look into reproducing with a launch → sleep → wake cycle. @Nick_Martin can you confirm if this is how to reproduce for you? If not, what do you typically do before it happens to you?

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