Lot’s of really great advices here!
I don’t have much to add to that, if now that I have been kind of obsessed with making the modular more gestural for some time, with the idea of taking out to live performances.
I did play live with the modular only a few times. One went quite well and I actually got quite close to putting together something that was kind of playable in a gestural way.
It was for a vernissage in an art gallery, we made an impro session for two modular synths and a Hang. I prepared a basic patch that would use the Vectr (a 3D controller module) to control various parameters of the patch, and added a small keyboard to determine the pitches. The rest was basically just opening and closing channels on the mixer and tweaking a handful of parameters.

I must day that it was fun to have something more gestural to play the modular with, but the Vectr was not working fully for me. From there I would have had to invest in some other modules… but my priorities changed. I’d still like to explore this direction in the future though.

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I have nothing to add from my own experience, but this thread reminded my of this:


Part 2:

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I would like to add my approach as I am mainly improvising and this is the reason I got into modular.
I believe that modular can give you that flexibility that a computer based rig lack many times, unless you haev spent ages preparing it.

I have a relatively small set-up that to be honest is quite sufficient for the moment.
As you can see there is a monome on the right + tanzbar and MI ANushri.

The idea is that I can modify whings on the fly (even patching sometimes) and create generative melodies via O_C and Rampage.
The monome provides the base melodic build via ansible.
And the mixer is the swiss army knife for song constructions and fx (Cathedral reverb and Boss RE20).

I have to admit that the patching is tending towards a semi static set-up as it gives me a lot of flexibility even in this version.

I organise a monthly event in London where we actually focus on improvisation and we do streaming if you are interested.

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@Jonny i pretty much follow all the same practices you’ve outlined. instead of performing my practice set for someone, i record it and listen back the next morning.

on the technical side, i’ve designed a patch that i find to be reliable and flexible. teletype is huge. i have scenes that recall memories for meadowphysics, ansible & earthsea, store melodic sequences and introduce a lil chaos. er-301 allows me to work with delay buffers and samples. i’ve done a full transcription of the patch so i can easily rebuild it if i have a show coming up. the other key thing is that the patch serves as a platform to compose within, so i can always add to my live set without having to start from scratch. i find that maintaining this familiarity helps build muscle memory. also allows me to refine that patch over time.

on the performance side i like to keep things moving - usually only spending about 5 or 6 minutes on any one vibe. i love long slow meditative works, but for live i try to keep the novelty flowin.

this is a great thread! y’all are awesome.

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I’m wondering how folks are approaching this element – I know modular notation has come up before (Modular Music Notation), but it seems appropriate in this thread as a tool for/toward live performance.

I’ve been using OneNote on my iPad with a GIMP line drawing template of my small system; cabling is outlined, but also performative notes so I have my bearings. I’m at the very beginning of this journey, but this has been a fun way to also understand the ins and outs of what I’ve patched when I’m away from my modular. Would love to see what others have found helpful/useful.

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Just popping in to say that Colin Benders is a great resource - he has many live videos, and you can watch him patch up. He does some of the most musical, changing, evolving stuff on modular - sure it’s easy to do drones with all sorts of LFO modulation stuff to keep it “fresh” but it’s really hard to do what Colin does where it’s fast techno-style stuff that needs more than just a few parameters tweaked over time. Not bashing drone stuff, but I think if anyone does drone, you’d learn a lot more watching Colin Benders than another drone performer.

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i think straight text is the fastest and most readable format - ie. this out to this in, this knob set to this value.

but i never do that. drawing is more fun :slight_smile: i draw digitally and use blocks that include only the pertinent module info instead of actual module panels. one layer is cv path, one layer is audio path, another layer is notes.

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I’m super curious about what this looks like if you don’t mind sharing?

yeah i was going to post but it’s at home. i’ll dig it up this evening.

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Here’s one of the 31 pages that help me patching my 200e. Took a screenshot of my system via modulargrid, then drew an outline-only version of the screenshot in a presentation app (Keynote), then I draw in the patchcords:


As the audio connections are simple point-to-point connection, I use a simple table with the columns “Source”, “Destination” and “Color”, as audio cables are color coded according to their length.

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We usually take notes in text form, and do some photos. Or even just take photos. It’s more something for the moment, not really intended to be archived in any way.
Another thing we do, that helps a lot with picking up on a live project that has been left aside for a bit, is to do some sort of block-scores. There not really scores, but rather a block-based representation of the various sections in the track, with some indication on things that are important to be remembered. Most of what we used to do live was either improvised or partially improvised, so these are mostly intended as guidelines to give us a frame of some sort.

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My notes look like this:

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Truthfully, I’ve only played a handful of live sets on the modular. I do, however, come from an improvisation background using guitar and pedals, and a decade ago in New York I had two weekly fully-improvised gigs, one quartet and one duo, that lasted for a few years. I developed an approach back then and I think I borrow some of that approach now with the modular. The difference is that I have much less familiarity with the modular as an instrument as I had with guitar and the mostly static selection of pedals I used to use.

Lately, I’ve been changing up the modular every few days, just searching for that alchemical gold. This results in barely having a saddle on the thing when it comes to performance time. I’m also new to 12U having only played a single show with that much hp. I have a show here in Austin in a couple days and I just today settled on my case configuration. I’ll be playing a 30-minute set and as of now, I don’t have anything planned. Tomorrow, though, I might end up with a vague map—at least for the beginning and end. That map will probably just be choosing a couple/few tonal centers and general vibe. But the thing is, having a map doesn’t mean that I need to use it. It’s just comforting at this point of unfamiliarity with the instrument to have some sort of overall compositional form to fall back on in case I try to juggle too many scarves/balls/knives.

Most importantly, though, is that I prioritize doing what feels best in the moment. My goal is to find the zone. You know, to discover that place that opens everything up where what you’re creating surprises and delights yourself. That’s when the music is truly relevant to the present moment. And for that reason, I don’t try to play any existing structures. It feels too much like sight reading, which I was never really good at.

A useful tool I’ve started experimenting with is to remind myself of the handful of configurations that I’ve been digging lately. Just with a clever name and if needed, a couple directions (Any re-patching, René scale preset, O_C Quantermain scale selections, Pam’s clocks or preset, dark/bright on filters, whatever is most important). That way, if in the moment I realize that I need a change and I’m not already confidently making a change in some desired direction, I can choose from the list. It’s kind of like flash cards for practicing. Whether or not I’ll use the tool in performance is yet to be seen. I don’t really want to, though. I’m hoping to have it all up in the noggin.

I love the timer idea. I’ve always just used the stock iOS timer, but man @marcus_fischer that app is great. I will definitely use it.

I’ve also started using an external mixer with two FX sends, delay and verb. It’s great to have faders to ride and having a little bit of EQ on each channel is also great. Most importantly, it’s freed up space in the case for more core modules not having to mix and apply as many effects in the case to get the sound I’m going for.

So, yeah, that’s what I can share now. Maybe after Wednesday, I’ll have more to add.

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The few times I actually took patch notes it looked like this too. But even with a relatively small system like the 7U I have, this quickly becomes a bit too much unless you restrict this to the core/skeleton of the patch…

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Does he ever make videos using small systems?

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I don’t think he does small systems :slight_smile:

but there’s some core techniques that can be indeed used for most types of music, which I’d sum up like this:

  • module redundancy, so you can have multiple patches that you can alternate between
  • have a solid base patch and build on that
  • have some parts of the patch that radically changes the sound/rhythm and patch it in a way so you can “fade” that in and out dynamically

I think Benders does a great job getting a lot out of a simple structure, but he seems to need a lot of modules to do it.
What I find really impressive are people who do the same think with a 6u 104hp system… but I don’t have a link at hand

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On a similar theme, i’ve been enjoying a lot of the #3modulechallenge videos that are popping up pn youtube.

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I literally write down every cable connection if I absolutely need to repeat a patch, which, when I have a series of shows lined up, I usually do.

btw, for those interested I’ve started to archive the best set recordings that I have. Will be adding to this everyday until I run out.

Don’t think I mentioned it in my previous post, but documenting my sets has been a huge help learning how to play live. Listening back gives you an entirely different perspective, especially on pacing.

https://soundcloud.com/karlfousek/sets/live

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