That’s where resampling comes in handy, imo. Spend all 8 tracks on drums, bounce that and a few variations, load it up, slice it and arrange it on a single track. Etc.

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Okay, much of this was as I assumed, but was curious about. I’ve seen some insane work using singular guitar samples to achieve very natural results, but this seemed over the line. The piece is wonderful and fluid. I appreciated hearing it!

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Yes, this is very useful. But note you’re losing stereo when resampling.

Are you sure? I’ve used the “render selection” function quite a bit, including material that’s been panned all over the place, and I don’t believe I lost the stereo in the process. But I could be wrong, I’d have to go into those projects and check when I have a moment.

Nevermind, yeah, rendered selections can’t be loaded back in as stereo. I understand why that’s the case in a tracker paradigm, but it’s still a bit of a bummer. It just means I’ll need to think twice before resampling with reckless abandon, and/or I need to rethink my approach to panning when working with the Tracker. It’s already a shame that the stereo aspects from my euro modules like Arbhar and Mimeophon don’t translate over when brought in as samples. I never considered myself a huge user of the stereo field, but I guess I’ve become one. There are probably some ways around the limitations, but they’re unwieldy and I think they would involve using Tracker in conjunction with a DAW in most cases.

Rethinking my approach to stereo may not be all that bad of an idea. There were some compelling reasons for working in mono that were articulated in a recent thread about this. I’ll have to explore more. I’m on board with adapting to Tracker’s way of working rather than insisting on my way, especially since tracking is such a new-to-me process.

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I have found that stereo limitation can be slightly frustrating at times, but it has actually forced two important lessons on me, namely forcing me to go back to edit/get master recordings and to record everything from every source I can and edit them further later.

I have a bad habit of getting something passable and not taking it as far as it can to. Limitations are bringing me more to the point of being more meticulous and slowing down. Never a bad thing with my personality.

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This rings SO true for me, too.

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I had to learn the hard way that more mono source is much much better than a few mixed true stereo sources. Also, I’d have no problems doing some subtle m/s digitally later. Tracker is really my favourite thing since I got norns and a grid. Would still like to see what a norns tracker would be like. Need to dig into nisp again which is also really crazy.

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Well, there’s still plenty of stereo to be achieved with the Tracker.

The mono sample limitation removes some nuance but it’s usually only noticeable for longer loop-style drum kits or ambient-style pads. For single hits and a lot of the usual loops you can get away with mono and use the panning in Instrument Parameters and track FX. And finally the global Delay and Reverb are stereo, too.

Plus, if you really need to keep stereo from a sample you can always split it into L and R and load them separately. You’ll use up two tracks for them but if it’s a key component to your song, totally doable.

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When I’m in the Sample Editor, playback volume seems to double compared to everywhere else - is this normal?

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I’ve had this happen before! It’s insane. I think the sample is double triggering? I’ve noticed it and can find it very distracting.

Just did some more research on this and I think see what’s happening now. When you load a sample, in Instrument Parameters its volume is automatically set to 50% but in the Sample Editor it bypasses everything in the Instrument Parameters and defaults to 100%.

I guess I can sorta see the logic to this because you want to be editing raw samples but the first time I discovered this I nearly blew my ears out!

Good find! And really confusing. Thanks for that.

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I think on the Fb group someone said that Polyend might treat it as a bug. Not sure. It surely is disruptive and a bit dangerous.

I’m pretty sure they were going to fix this and might have already done so in the latest beta, I’ll check it out this evening.

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It has indeed been fixed in the latest beta.

Just got in touch with Polyend to ask about adding the ability to modulate grain size with an lfo (which they are open to!), and got a whole changelog of beta updates and a new firmware in the process. So far they have been very helpful and very receptive to feedback which I really appreciate. I would suggest anyone who hasn’t already to shoot them an email and ask to be added to their firmware mailing list. A ton of updates have been made already:

v1.1.9 changelog:

  • Added per track volume control in Master 2/2 screen,
  • New slower LFO speed values (all but Amp): 48, 64, 96, 128 were added,
  • Master volume is now global, not per project,
  • In Sample Editor the Process command was changed to Preview which is processing the selected Fx and previews it immediately,
  • Added sample anti-aliasing on/off toggle switch in the Config,

We are aware of the graphic display glitch when editing track names in the Master 2/2 section. It will be fixed with the next available release.

v1.1.8 changelog:

  • The still present skipping notes bug should be now 100% eliminated (finally!),

v1.1.7 changelog:

  • Further improvements to the limiter,
  • Fixed bug causing freeze when setting a tuning on an instrument in certain circumstances,
  • Changed behaviour of returning to a step/live recording,
  • Improved internal/MIDI BPM tempo stability,

v1.1.6 changelog:

  • Limiter parameters are calculated on a new basis.
  • Implemented “de-clicking” algorithm.
  • Removed artefacts from the audio export mechanism.
  • Fix for the muted instrument when toggling between Song and Pattern modes.

v1.1.5 changelog:

  • Change the BPM value in decimal values (0.1 ) with the Shift key pressed,
  • Added new Pattern Play Mode in Performance mode - CST/Custom (just one at the moment, but a variety will be added soon),
  • When in live recording mode, you can exit it and enter it again by pressing the Rec button, without stopping the sequencer,
  • Fixed issue in Song mode where the use of Undo function was damaging the current pattern by filling it with random steps,
  • Fixed issue where the Delay settings were coming back to defaults after a reset of the instrument,
  • Fixed issue where the Instrument chosen using the popup menu was not stored in the next pattern,

v1.1.4 changelog:

  • Audio engine optimisations,
  • Fixed random clicks in playback modes and audio rendering,
  • Fixed volume in Sample Editor,
  • The Autoslice numbers are now displayed correctly,
  • Normaliser fx in the Sample Editor section got moved to the top of the list,
  • Green/Red mode implemented in the Performance section,
  • Mute labels in the Pattern view when Shift is pressed,
  • Fixed problems with track naming,
  • Some of the choice menus like eg. filter type or ENV type can now be switched between using the corresponding screen buttons.

v.1.1.3

  • Rename track names > go to Master screen > press Rec to edit,
  • Further text input improvements,
  • Group step selecting and preview available in the green mode,
  • Start/Stop live recording without stopping the sequencer,
  • Fill tool improvements,
  • Added tempo tap - double click to enable, then another click sets the tempo,
  • New external recording options in Config - only notes/velocity/microtiming/velocity+microtiming
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Does this mean they sent you the firmware file for your tracker? Or just notes on the firmware changes?

Yep, they sent me v1.1.9

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Is the Tracker a pretty intuitive box? I ordered a Digitakt to have some OP-Z features in a more robust package, but I spent around 45 minutes following along with tutorials and by the time I figured out how to make sounds, I was very uninspired with what I was able to do, and the sample navigation was an absolute headache. I know it can do stuff that’s cool, but when compared to the boxes it was supposed to replace (OP-Z and 1010music Bitbox), those were so much more immediate and fun, that I figured I wouldn’t waste anymore of my already limited music time trying to learn a whole new language just to do what I was already doing with relative ease.

I’m not super well-versed in trackers, but I did make a cover or two using Famitracker a few years ago. I feel like it might translate well to hardware, but also it might be the Digitakt learning curve fiasco all over again. It was just such a joyless experience for me, so I’m ruling out Elektron for the time being.

So, I happen to adore my Tracker. It is fantastic and just clicks for me in a way that the OP-Z never did. I just love what comes out of it. The work I do feel inspiring and especially the rhythms.

I will say that the Digitakt, having not used one before, appears to have more a performance and “feel” aspect to it. While the Polyend Tracker has some incredible performance tools for playing once the track is written, I don’t believe you will be able to write a track whole cloth without there being some start and stops along the way. For example, while you can do button presses and put a whole scene together with the track running, when you go to the next scene… There’s nothing there! So, while you can use some quick copy and paste techniques to keep the sound rolling, you might miss a hit or two.

The other tough part is that with the digitake, you have so many ways to alter sounds during performance. This can be done with the tracker as well, but not as easily, smoothly or quickly.

If though, you have a bunch of scenes and patterns written out with the Tracker before a performance, you’re going to have an INSANE amount of fun. I spent the better part of last week just creating 4/4 drum loops in to multiple patters, setting up performance mode with sweet spots and playing the Tracker and Subharmonicon for up to an hour. Its just the freaking best.

So, it all depends on what you want. I wlove the rhythms I get with a tracker. It pairs so well with the way that I work. Its a blast to use and the new reverb rules. It does differ from other step sequencers, bringing both the pluses and the minuses of the tracker format as a whole. It does have a little baggage, so to speak. But what I gain greatly outstrips what I would lose from something like a Digitakt.

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