#365

Sry to bother but my setup is right now far from finished to try…need a lot of soldering.

I am not sure i understood voice allocation of trilogy ES running PolyES completely.

Lets say i play voice 1 wich has gate, i play voice 2 while gate is still high, if i remove my finger from voice 2, it wont stop unless voice 1 sends gate off, same for a 3rd and 4th voice?

Beside cumberosme and not intuitive gate delay, there isnt much i can do in trickery to overcome this?

#366

it depends on how many voices you have enabled for that pattern and how they are assigned.

voice allocation will use whatever voices are available for that pattern. when a new note is played, it will use the first available voice. if all voices are already in use, it will steal from the earliest note.

let’s say you have voice 1 and voice 2 enabled for the current pattern, and both are assigned to output 1. you play first note - the gate goes high. you play the second note - since you have voice 2 enabled, it will go to that, but since voice 2 is also using output 1 it will send pitch to CV output 1 and it will continue holding the gate high. if you release note 2 it will set gate to low, even though voice 1 note is still on - it doesn’t do a special check in this case to see if any other voices assigned to the same output are still active. could be done but it’s not how it works right now - and it wouldn’t make sense to implement something like it, since with just one output having multiple voices doesn’t make sense, you would just have one voice assigned to a pattern and sent to output 1.

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#367

Totaly apreciate your patience i ve to say.

I was assuming the 2nd and a potential 3rd voice would or should be assigned and patched through the several cv outs. I am not sure if in your example how note 1 would still play when note 2 is triggered since one CV output can not be duophonic?

#368

it wouldn’t - once you play note 2 the CV output will output pitch for note 2.

for normal polyphonic application you would have multiple voices each assigned to its own output. so then you play note 1, it goes to output 1, you play note 2 (while note 1 is still active) - it goes to output 2 and so on. and if you play a note and all of the voices are already being used, it will steal from the earliest note.

#369

And the gate of out 1 is kind of a master gate, wich means as long out 1 is high, the notes will play sustained wich could only be altered via envelope?

Think i got it

#370

overlapped notes sent to the same output will result in the gate being held high - envelopes won’t help since it won’t get retriggered. this was discussed a while ago, the solution would be introducing a gap but then you get a delay, so it’s not a proper solution.

#371

Nono… seperate outs was my thinking.

#372

if you have separate outputs then you’ll just get notes sent to different outputs, there is no “master” gate.

#373

Hi @scanner_darkly!

I’ve just updated my Ansible to the PolyEarthsea alt firmware, and I think it’s amazing! I’ve dreamt so many times of having a fast, simple and multitrack sequencer like this, so thank’s a lot!
The only issue that I’m having is that I can not control the Ansible module from my Teletype. I have a I2C cable connected from my TT to the Ansible. With the new firmware I have the 6th button on the rightmost column off, which seems to left the Ansible in follower mode. I then type " TR.P 5" in Teletype and nothing happens on the Ansible. Am I doing something Wrong? The TT-Ansible comunication was working fine before the update …

#374

TR.P and CV ops are only supported when ansible original firmware is running in teletype mode - this mode is not supported on polyES (it only supports ES teletype ops).

#375

Thanks @scanner_darkly!

What I’m trying to do right now is to convert the grid response on the Ansible to match each button to a semitone in a continuosly way. In other words, instead of having this formula (X + (7-Y) * 5 - 1) to calculate the semitone of each button, I would like to have a (X + (7-Y) * 16 - 1). By doing this I can have broader range on the CV outs of the Ansible. I’ve seen the files in the PolyEarthsea Master ZIP file and I’ve found the lines were I need yo change the code, but the problem I have right now is how to build the HEX file from those files. I think I need the LIBAVR32 installed but when I try to execute the “PREFIX=$HOME/avr32-tools make install-cross” command I get an error, as the ATMEL link seems to be down.

Any help with this? Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks in advance!!

#376

i’m not sure the ZIP file will contain libavr32 as it’s included as a submodule. a better thing to do is to clone the repo with --recursive option - this will include the proper version of libavr32.

then you’ll need to install the toolchain - the atmel files link doesn’t work anymore, there is a couple of workarounds - check https://github.com/monome/libavr32 instructions (you can skip ragel and clang-format steps), if that doesn’t work, you could also try @dewb’s docker image (see https://github.com/monome/teletype for details).

#377

Thanks @scanner_darkly! I’ve managed to do the compile but it has been pretty difficult to manage with the libavr32 extension. Finally I got it!

I’ve uploaded 2 versions of the firmware. In the first one each button is an increment of one semitone and also from the rightmost button of one row to the leftmost button of the upper one. It could be called a true chromatic grid without note repetitions (1 BUTTON 1 SEMITONE)
The other one has an increment of 12 semitones from each row position, so now all “y” buttons play the same note but on different octaves (1 ROW 1 OCTAVE).

multipass_ans - 1B1S.hex (185.3 KB)
multipass_ans - 1R1O.hex (185.3 KB)

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#378

great, glad you got it working!

#380

One more question @scanner_darkly … Is it possible to save presets in an external USB drive, like in the original firmware? I’m trying to do this by pressing KEY 2 but nothing happens …

#381

no, it’s not supported right now unfortunately. i need to add it to multipass but this requires a significant effort, so not sure when i will be able to do it.

#382

And one more question, @scanner_darkly …

Is it possible to modulate the transpose option in the MOD BUS page? It seems to be possible to modulate octave and volume for the different voices but not transposition by pressing the button range …

Thanks!

#383

not possible right now - i didn’t think it made sense to modulate transposition in the same manner. i did consider being able to select specific values instead of a range and then modulate between that, but didn’t want to overcomplicate the UI.

#384

Yes, no problem. I’m using the CV outs from Ansible and converting them to MIDI notes to trigger piano and samples like violins or so. I’m using the transposition option to change the chords being played, but I guess that being able to random modulate and transpose the notes will create something too random. Being able to modulate octaves is definitely more useful. Also if I need some kind of randomness in this transposition I’m placing an O&C with a shift register or quantizer to mod the notes in a more controlable way.

Anyway thanks a lot. I find this alt firmware for the Ansible very IMPRESSIVE.

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