#487

there are 4 completely independent audio tracks/engines. so you can sequence four different tracks independently, externally or internally. plus with sound locks, you can have something like 126 different sounds in a track. it has a sound pool, like with other elektron gear that you can pull any patch from and place them on any trig in a sequence. the sequence is also how you lock in motion sequencing or p-locks. each track has 2 lfos as well. they all go to the same master effects though. and yes, external midi cc is independent of the sequencer, unless you record them into the sequencer on the digitone. you can record external sequences also. so even if youre playing things live with a midi controller, or using ableton or another midi sequencer, for modulation or patterns, you can lock them in. I like to use the Changes script for norns to send modulation in, which is really cool because you can see the parameter animation with external midi modulation.


I think its worth it for just the 4 extremely flexible and gorgeous synths alone. but i also think you’ll end up using the sequencer a little bit. if not just for recording stuff in to kind of “print” it. and expand from there. its very convenient. hope that answers some of that
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#488

Well now I have to buy one.

#489

I don’t think I’m the intended audience, I’d probably prefer something new from Sequential, but knowing Dave I’m sure it will sound awesome. Thinking about something like this now with MIDI functionality and velocity/aftertouch, coupled with something like the Octatrack to expand its abilities, and things get really interesting.

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#490

I had to order the prophet 10. I’ve been wanting just a simple old school poly to play piano type sounds on and this is just a dream come true.

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#491

The Prophet X is pretty neat.

As for the 5… fuck yes! It’s been my dream synth for many years and having it return in such a turbulent year… Thanks Dave!

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#492

I love the idea of the Prophet 5. I am honestly a bit board by the tidal-wave of new synths that put novelty before sound quality. I would much rather get to a great sound quickly and do all the extra-funky processing with my small collection of hardware and software effects later. And, I would much rather find novelty in my song writing, and it is way easier to write music on a simple instrument imo.

Also, if I am going to bother with an analog synth, it better be unmistakably analog. Like, on the edge of breaking down – sounds like it is from another time and place – analog. None of this super aggressive, drowned in reverb, boringly stable stuff that has been coming out for the past several years.

And why, after all these new innovative features, does it always seem like the only thing that manifests in most new synths is an aggressive sound? Every synth review I watch the commentator says “Look at all these innovate features and wow, listen to how aggressive it sounds?!” Yes yes, and all these new innovative IPA’s are hoppy and I am board out of my mind!

Give me a stout and a simple synth that sounds like honey and I will be happy.

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#493

Yes, especially with velocity of course.

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#494

Can anyone tell me what’s happening here? What is the harmonics parameter doing? changing the ratio? I feel like this should be possible on the SY77 too seeing as it can set operators to 0hz and I know you can use these 0hz carriers for waveshaping (is that the same thing as wavefolding?)

I also wonder if I could achieve something close with the Phase Modulation on my Motas-6… The oscillators aren’t capable of doing to 0hz with it being analog but I’m pretty sure it can get damn close to 0 and that might be good enough.

Thanks in advance for anyone who can shed some light, I love the sound of wavefolding but am currently considering selling the only thing in my studio designed to do it to help fund another Motas so it’d be great if i had access to that sound some other way.

Edit: I had a play around with it and I understand the concept now, very cool technique!

#495

Agreed. I was tempted to sell my Rev2 a while back towards a Prophet 6. But I think having the extra voices is worth it at the price point.

I do prefer the sound of the filter on the Prophet 6, but it’s nothing you can’t easily “fix in post” via a little EQing or even just a cool guitar pedal to darken it up a bit.

Now the arrival of the Reissue Prophet 5 on the other hand…

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#496

oof, it sounds good

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#497

just wanted to say that the matriarch has reeeeally been this ^ for me lately, highly recommend.

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#498

It’s also my sensation of what Matriarch is and it would definitely be very high on my list if I was on the market for an analog poly.

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#499

do you use the Matriarch as you would a poly or does the paraphonic nature of it get in the way of that?

#500

Not sure the limitations of a paraphonic Matriarch would work for me.

Y’all need to try a Super 6. Can do that broken down analogue sound and a lot more besides. Had mine a couple of months now and it’s the best synth I have ever owned, in 30 years of synth owning!

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#501

my favorite way to use the four voice paraphony is to run midi through it that i recorded without thinking about a four voice limitation so that the voice allocation is always having to jump around - gives it a distinct ‘broken’ feeling i really love. works great with all oscs set identically, but you can make it wilder if you change the settings of each oscillator (diff waveforms, octaves, sync, etc) and let the notes jump around between them.

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#502

no, he changes the ratio offset of the main operator “C” when he adjusts it to -1.00 then raises the level of the A modulator (for the C operator) on page “SYN2”. The harmonics knob is just a wave morphing parameter. it goes from like a slightly folded sine to pulse, to sine, to saw. first for operator C, then goes through the same wave morphing for A+B simultaneously. i think

#503

I’ve been slowly getting more and more drawn in by the Super 6 after a few years of thinking about what the best Poly for me would be. I used an Elektron AK for while and that has made me certain that I want something with as much front panel control as possible - this seems to be fundamental to the Super 6 design.

Interesting to hear you say it can have that ‘broken’ analogue sound, as I was thinking maybe that would be something it wouldn’t excell at. Do the oscillators themselves have any sort of drift designed into them?

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#504

I had an Elektron A4K a few years ago and absolutely detested the interface (although it sounded good), sold it within a couple of months. The Super 6 is the polar opposite in terms of interface, much more my cup of tea. Hopefully yours too!

There is no user configurable oscillator drift setting right now, but it is something George has spoken about possibly adding in future. I would love to have it too. I think if there’s ever a nice editor/librarian software for it, it could really open up the synth with many deeper settings. The Q&A George did on GS last year is well worth a browse.

But don’t buy it for what it might have in future, try to get a demo and see if you dig it as is. A lot of the demos are clean sounds only, but as I said on the S6 FB group recently, the combo of analogue VCFs and VCAs, binaural super oscillator spread modulation, linear and exponential FM, audio rate LFOs, LFO rate Oscillators, a looping Envelope, and two types of distortion, can take it into messy dirty noise land very easily, whilst still sounding incredible and analogue.

I’ve never heard digital PWM, Sync and FM sound this good/analogue, something to do with the FPGA architecture I imagine.

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#505

I see, I imagine even greater results could be had by modulating the folded sine by various ratios to emphasise various harmonics in the same way that the overtone section does on the 0-coast, this is what I ended up doing with the Motas and it seemed to work very nicely.

Going to experiment with this on my Sy77 too when I next get a chance

I guess I can contribute that to this thread… The Sy77 makes a very nice poly synth, it can do all those ultra digital fm sounds but it can also get very analog in its sound… More so than some analog synths I’ve owned.

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#506

Anyone here using the Modal Argon8? What are your thoughts on sound? Pros and cons?

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