At around the 2 minute mark in Loopop’s review, he says 1010 have “indicated” that in the the usb host port will accept midi cc in future updates. Don’t know which indication he’s referring to, but I assume 1010 intend to do this!

I also think this mixer will work best with a midi controller. It feels like its small design is made with small, portable performance focused hardware setups in mind. Even though it certainly will work good in a set-and-leave setting too, there are so many other options for those situations (where size is also not as important).

I heard that, too. It’s just not something that I’d bet 500 dollars on, and it’s a current limitation that’s not obvious in the product description (you have to “look for what they don’t say”).

Some of this is that the product looks so so so good that these two issues are completely breaking for my use case feels this way

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it’s so weird that they wouldn’t have made midi mapping a thing on launch… especially since you know it would be the first thing everyone asks about.

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The 1010 mixer has a cool feature set, but I don’t know why they’re so tied to that form factor. If you need a midi controller for a small mixer it somewhat defeats the purpose of a small mixer–it’s no longer small. It would have been nice to see a purpose-built piece of hardware with a knob or fader for each channel, rather than shoehorning a feature set into the same platform. The mini trs jacks are fine with me, but the interface looks like it demands too much attention during a performance. It would be nice if you could morph between saved states–that would be great for performances.

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I can’t really look at the bluebox without this recent comment from the OB-4 thread echoing in my head…

I think I would be significantly more excited about a TE mixer/recorder in basically this exact same form-factor, but with an improved OP-1 tape as the main recording interface.

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It’s probably so they could make the 10/10 launch date.

If I were running a business and I had a platform that I had already built knowledge and tooling around I wouldn’t want to reinvent the wheel every time I released a new product.

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Yeah, bluebox is probably 90% an alternate firmware for the blackbox, plus a paint job; that’s the model 1010music follows on Eurorack. There is one obvious hardware revision on bluebox vs. blackbox: two additional jacks on the front. Otherwise, they’re outwardly identical.

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I couldn’t even get through the video personally. The fact that this was coupled with so much other gear that has been released within what feels like milliseconds just felt like too much product placement & enablement of conspicuous consumption to me. Maybe I’m just being a complete curmudgeon this weekend, but I found the whole thing a massive turn-off.

Ironically, I could actually use a small footprint mixing device.

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There’s this (in my humble opinion) mistaken practice that if a device isn’t readily available it’s still hyped and susceptible to speculation. I thought this thread was mostly focused on devices like the ones from Teenage Engineering, where you have weeks of obscure photos to speculate on and discuss with fellow forumites.

Since the Bluebox has a release date and is being promoted via thorough demos I’d assume that both a link in the Mini mixers thread and a dedicated thread to discuss actual features would be prudent. But it seems I’m wrong. A mention in the Mixers thread makes a lot of sense.

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yeah thats the problem with gear influencers

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I haven’t seen any chatter on here about the Ogami Ittō from Unknown Devices. The demos are pretty intriguing and the Midi as well as Max4Live hooks are nice.

  • Digital mono-in stereo-out effect pedal
  • 600MHz Cortex M7 MCU
  • AK4558 Codec, 16-bit 44100Hz
  • 9V 300mAh
  • Usb and trs Midi
  • Expression pedal input
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Wow. Fantastic demo. Anyone know if these are actually out in the wild? UD site still references preorders shipping in September,

And yet, here we all are in the “Pre-release Hype Megathread”! :roll_eyes:

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Well I think if we rename the thread to something like “pre release gear discussion” it will still reflect what happens here without implying that we should act in a certain way :slight_smile:

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all pre release is hype

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ps. hype is not always bad

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I pre-ordered one in August, but it hasn’t arrived yet. Their last Instagram post implies that shipments will be sent out pretty soon!

very respectfully, and I do share your perspective that consumer culture is toxic, but:
a) I wouldn’t consider any of the gear used to be super out of the ordinary
b) it is a mixer that needs audio signals, so by definition you need other gear to test it, and newly received gear is more likely to be floating around outside of a larger setup
c) you can use this with what you already have and not have to buy one single extra thing
d) I don’t feel like this is a great reason to remove from consideration a piece of gear that may meet your needs
e) what are we doing here in this thread, discussing the merits of upcoming consumer goods, if not enabling consumerism?

Tags like “influencer” obscure the fact that these are ultimately freelancer video producers being paid (likely not a ton, or compensated in barter) to put in a lot of time producing really thorough and informative videos about products that are very difficult to try before purchase.

this isn’t They Live here, or a celebrity shilling for a product they obviously don’t use. it’s a friendly synth nerd showing you the possibilities of gear he is generally genuinely excited about.

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I think the concern is that synthfluencers (:face_vomiting:) are responsible for the Amazing Discoveries of gear videos. Could be mistaken, but I don’t think the gripe, as such, was with “pre-release hype.”

That said, we have an older thread for that discussion (which was also linked above).

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