That’s a lot of guts for just a speaker! And what’s up with the “tape” button?

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Remix your favorite music live with patented T.E. FX tech straight from the Pocket Operator series.

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Then we’d be talking. For now…? Eh, I probably won’t be bringing a boom box with me anywhere.

OB-4 Bluetooth speaker?

Six years of development and a month of teases for a bluetooth speaker? Maybe it uses quantum gravity waves to play music from the future that hasn’t been recorded yet, and receives transmissions from the dead?

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Good point. That pcb does nothing to explain the six years remark. Do you ever feel like you’ve found yourself in a well-engineered marketing campaign? Like deja-vu, but more capitalist :thinking:

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I’m still a little optimistic that it’ll be something a little bit surprising or delightful. It just seems like it would be a real marketing mistake/expectation mismatch to build a lot of hype around something that is supposed to be “magical” and then reveal a large and clunky wireless speaker? But, who knows.

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I’m sure it’s going to be something interesting and cool. Probably not something I want, but something that reflects a long development process and is worth teasing.

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So given this link are we allowed to discus what it contains inside here or not or will wait for next friday to discuss some more?:slight_smile:

My guess that this will be a bit better than just a speaker and maybe even a very good one with some recording stuff possibly, but oh my will people be frustrated anyway.

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To be fair frustration is par for the course with TE. I loved my OP-1 to death but I just didn’t have enough faith in them as a company that it wouldn’t become a paperweight over time.

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Well I don’t want to tell you how to live but that all comes from expectations i guess. The biggest companies like microsoft and apple can’t even get will their things together without bugs, fails and frustrations what can we expect from smaller companies. I think part of being free is just don’t have expectations and be happy with what you have. TE obviously need to pay attention to their quality (and I tell you this from my bent case double trigger op-z experience, so i feel your pain:) but at the end of the day their devices are cool, they bring so much joy and nobody force us to buy them anyway.

And that goes to lot of people who express their dislike vigorously being it a new apple devices or over the top expensive TE t-shirts, the thing is nobody force to buy this stuff and all this toxicity from people is a dead end in my opinion and lead to nothing more than toxicity. But of course people have opinions and I so do I so at least I am trying to not judge them too much:)

I am personally very excited as i believe they do their best to release nice stuff and at least they try to be a good, obviously they are not a charity and they need profit but I love to believe that this is not their main goal:)

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There are a few things the TE secret voodoo speaker could do well that would be fun:

  1. Can it buffer audio and capture, say, the last n seconds for download later or looping now?
  2. Does it have a built-in AM/FM radio?
  3. Can it connect to multiple devices for group play?
  4. Does it have some onboard effects? Can those effects be tweaked? Can those effects be swapped out/in?
  5. Can you push a button a suddenly it transports us back in time to the start of 2020 (or earlier) so rational minds can make rational decisions and tens upon tens of thousands of people can avoid perishing?
  6. Does it have a decent battery?

It’s an interesting gedanken experiment.

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  1. Does it have an aux input with no delay :roll_eyes:
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I absolutely agree with you on most of your points. But there’s a disconnect here between what TE wants to be/believes itself to be and what their fans or customers want. The expectations are misaligned. And at the same time, TE does little to address or curtail those expectations. I don’t really mind either way. I think they make beautiful products. Most are not for me, but I still appreciate their design aesthetic. But we can’t pretend that they function in a vacuum and it’s up to the consumer to temper themselves. TE promotes their work and puts teases new output in a way that engenders a certain amount of anticipation from many of their fans.

I’ve continued to get the feeling that TE is a bit unbalanced in their skill set as a company. They are fantastic designers. They have a great eye. But they lack in their ability to communicate effectively with their consumer, build their units or design for mass production. This dissonance causes a certain amount of disillusion from people who love TE’s previous efforts.

I think this explains much of the backlash towards them and these sorts of reveals.

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That would be neat - and a reasonable guess too.

ooh if you’re referring to the od-11, that was addressed in a firmware update :). I too was disappointed I couldn’t play the op-1 through it at first.

Yep I agree, however personally I can’t wrap my head around what they should do regarding hardware releases. For the quality of their devices or relations with users surely lot of stuff can be better (and I actually really enjoyed their livestreams for that matter), but for this release I read here and there for example that this is “over hyped” and things like this but I really can’t see this here, they tease for sure, but that is kind of funny and interesting (and we speak here about that as a proof), they don’t say that they will release something that will change the face of the earth, just a focus phocus apparatus which they are really proud and worked for 6 years and I think there is nothing wrong with that, but people want/expect op-2 of course so they feel frustrated.

But that of course is very understandable and is okay, just kind of interesting to watch this dynamic in people. I think at the end of the day things like this happen to companies that have a passionate user-base and people who really love this products (apple as another example, much less people care about lenovo).

I also feel like TE runs into this expectation issue because their product releases can feel like they get less complicated or ambitious as time goes on, not more. I don’t think that is an entirely fair read on the situation, but it bucks the standard consumer expectation. it also isn’t wrong for them to do that, but when people universally love your first product, it makes stuff hard.

maybe it’s like when people love an artist’s first album so much more than anything that follows. the artist wants to move on and just can’t escape the gravity of their early work.

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If we put the issue of the actual products aside, what I appreciate about TE’s approach to things is that it presses the buttons of people that feel they are owed something by a manufacturer or brand. There’s this odd relationship that I see in video games, music equipment, artists, TV shows, etc where people who purchase the products of a company feel like they should have say in how the product is further developed or the direction that the company should go in. Because they made one purchase, that company is now beholden to them in perpetuity for input and guidance.

And while I do believe the voice of the customer is an important one for the sake of having functional and reliable products (something that, admittedly, TE could probably do a better job at), not only is the customer usually wrong but it’s also incredibly presumptuous to assume that they should have a right to be “mad” that a company isn’t doing what said user wants them to do. Some companies have active forums where they take customer input, some don’t. Some are open about their development plans, some aren’t. There’s a great big spectrum out there for how to run a business.

The expectation is that TE should be working on a new OP-1 and they can’t be working on anything else. People get angry that they aren’t. How messed up is that? There are plenty of companies making all sorts of wonderful groove boxes and people are angry that TE, a company who has developed enough innovation to presumably earn Fuck You money, are doing their own thing at their own pace. I hope they make a million unlabeled t-shirts and clear music equipment holders and dancing speakers or whatever it is they want to do.

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The anger you mention truly has no place in that arena. I truly agree with you. I do understand a little of the dissatisfaction or disappointment though.

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