DIY’ing these is super easy, just some cheap amplifiers and exciters. A group I play with has done some small-room shows where we turned cymbals into speakers. We’ve also had a ton of fun hooking exciters up to a piano harp, basically a big speaker with a built in very wet reverb!

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I’m kind of into it. I think the design is really nice, but I’m not 100% sold on the concert/streaming subscription aspect and worry about sound quality a little. Feels like in an interesting idea to build a community around your product with events like this, and I’m interested to see how it works out.

Yes the subscription is optional.

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I pre-ordered the Oda speakers yesterday. I felt so targeted by the lineup, design, concept, etc. I’m currently in need of some speakers, and I moved to a new place where concerts are rare (especially with any of these artists) so I am curious to see how this residency concept pans out. Since I won’t be going to 30+ concerts a year anymore, this didn’t feel too expensive.

The response from a few of my friends: “so this is the Peloton for live music people?”

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I have to admit I find the combination really compelling - the lineup of the performances definitely has me WAY more interested in these speakers than I would otherwise be. And the specifics of the format has me way more interested in a streaming concert series than I would otherwise be. marketing psy-ops? or thoughtful artist-supporting community building. Not totally sure.

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I also ordered a pair of the Oda resonators. I kind of like the whole concept of cherry wood tuned resonators, and a curated live concert/sound series. I’ll subscribe to the winter season and see how it goes from there. It’s important that the artists are getting some significant support, the slate of artists is diverse, and beyond formal concerts–it looks like there’s going to be some more experimental live streams. It should be kind of neat to leave these turned on, and hear all sorts of live sounds and music streams at random times–filtered through the strange response of the resonators. It’s weird and different–and I’m looking for some things to get me through a long covid winter.

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There’s really something confusing not in a good way about the marketting lingo behind the Oda resonant Speakers website.

I say it’s confusing because primarily there’s something to like about the idea : the videos and pictures showcase the listeners as positionning between the two “speakers”, and this framing makes it feel like the primary purpose of the device is to separate from the screen, and put the focus back on the music, and the speakers here (with their fancy wood pannel look) are really thought of as an actual replacement of the screen rather than sitting behind it, which puts the speaker back as the primary interface of the relationship between the listener and the artists, which is an especially bold take for something that seem to have a focus on live performance (increasingly considered as a “visual” experience, with more and more push toward making music performance “audiovisual shows” rather than just music performances).

So all of that, I like a lot and find it interesting. Now everything else… it’s so confusing, it’s actually confusing in general to feel like we live in this era of make pretend, nothing is clearly explained, it’s just a gigantic blur of “exciting” buzzwords, there’s a sexy line up of big names artists and you have no idea how they got there, what’s the business model behind it, who gets what which I find absolutely essential for a subscription / season based service like this one. They claim “We pay meaningful performance fees to give artists an opportunity to create something unique and stretch their creative limits.” which means nothing really, what’s meaningful, did Madlib and Arca get a similar fee than any other name that will perform on this platform? Is the “Oda speakers” sales, supposedly expanding the audience, completely decorelated from the subscription revenues like the graphic is suggesting which would be very suprising (I expect they at least make a cut of the sub based service, but that cut is never mentionned in the graphic anywhere it just looks like they make money from selling the speakers) ? There are so many things that could be simply answered and are not. Because yes it’s a very different thing if Oda is some sort of heavily funded (by who, how?) company that can pay in advance a huge line up to do some name dropping and kickstart a product, or if it’s a new kind of business model that stands for something politically and those artists were in on it and wanted to back that up. There’s also a quote from “The Quietus”, so I went and checked what the Quietus thought about it : The Quietus doens’t “think” anything about it because they’re actually business partners in this venture, so much for the quote. And ultimately : yet another “subscription based” service, except now… for live, which until now was the only kind of revenue stream that wasn’t tied to subscription, which means it wasn’t tied to the “scaling” logic and brutal competition that plagues sub based services and so on.

It’s tiring for me (I guess from reading comments here and there that many many people have absolutely no problem with it) that marketting has become some sort of diet political soda with all the life-changing / revolution-inducing words, but none of the actual desire to move past the most confusing and exploitative marketting techniques, or define actually new structures for the companies and business models supporting them. I feel sorry for myself that it disturbs me so deeply.

Despite all of this, I hope this project takes off for all the points mentionned in my first paragraph, and I also hope my worries are answered to by a more transparent follow up to their initial marketing campain, which from the tone I’m reading and if I understand it well enough, is clearly aimed at semi-wealthy urban upper socio-professionnal people who are more focused on their way of life and personnal relationship to their experiencing of music, than precisely to the politically conscious trying to redefine the way we consume music through structural rebuilding (which are probably a kind of sub-niche in that group anyway).

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A small(er) release, to make room for the larger releases

So exited for what’s to come!

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Don’t be. A mixture of hope and skepticism for the methods and intentions of luxury production is necessary to being a conscious person.

Feels good to be seen~

I’m pretty friendly with one of the artists who’s featured right at the top of their website (one of the lesser known names) and I’m DMing her to see if the revenue share is as equitable as the ad copy might have us believe. I’m sure she’s discouraged from giving exact numbers, but so far she’s responded in the affirmative.

Def won’t be buying these, since its not the kind of luxury item I go for or find to be necessary for active listening (I’ll simple turn off my computer monitor or place my phone screen down), but if this can help facilitate funds going to artists, and directly to artists, then I’m for it.

That said, here’s hoping it doesn’t pull a tiny desk/telekom electronic beats thing and just become a vehicle for mainstream performers and established names while only throwing crumbs to the (well-fund/already established) up and comers.

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i can’t gather from the ODA site if they will be offering the ability to subscribe to the performance season without buying the speakers. anyone know?

the speakers look cool and all - but i already have speakers :slight_smile:

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From the site, it looks like you can use the resonators with other sources, but there’s no option to subscribe to the performance seasons without them. Presumably, you could hook other speakers up to the bluetooth/wifi receiver, but that would still mean buying the resonators. I’d guess you could sell the resonators to someone who has no interest in the receiver+performance subscription.

This is what matters–do the smaller participating artists feel like they’re being treated well? It’s a novel idea, and they obviously need marketing to make it work, but I’ll evaluate the subscription’s value and integrity based on the artists involved.

This looks wonderful actually.
It’s kind of a lovely idea. Like an artist residency that you’re commiting to support. I don’t know many of the performers, but the span and diversity seems great.

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we were hit up about doing one of these oda concerts, but opted out before it made it to an actual deal. would be very interested to hear actual deal points. it’s an oddly problematic idea but the people involved do really seem to have their hearts in the right place - someone we used to work with works for the company now and he certainly sees their mission as creating a real way for artists to make money in a potentially non-touring future. will be interested to see how it develops, and who else takes up similar models.

edit: i should also note that when we were approached about this i’m pretty sure there was a recording component too, as in they had a specific mic / set of mics that they wanted us to use to maximise the “in a room right in front of you” feeling when translated through the resonators. not sure if that ended up in the final idea, this was quite a while ago.

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start-up-esque luxury brand vibe (like fancy sheets and other things advertised about on podcasts) aside, conceptually that part of this is interesting to me…the idea of mastering to a specific target system, and I guess the idea of recording using specific microphones as an extension of that. Like it is some part of an artistic installation. there are other important variables that can’t be accounted for, like room acoustics, so I’m not sure it’s really more than a gimmick.

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On the topic of panel speakers, this video is super interesting: https://youtu.be/zdkyGDqU7xA

I’m not sure about the above product, but for anyone interested this video explains how they work and how you could even build one yourself.

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1010music just announced the Bluebox digital mixer:

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Oooh, that looks really nice.
Potentially ticks a lot of boxes for me.

the possibilities are there… i really wish 1010 would hire a really good UI designer.

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Damn … that’s an insta-buy for me.

Holy crap - this looks great. Could really help with a compact setup. Will be watching this space. I’m a little bummed about the 3.5 mm Jack’s, but something has to give when the size shrinks down.