I find some of the attitudes posted in the last few days on this thread perplexing. Are we buying products or feelings? If the former, it shouldn’t matter if Moog or another manufacturer advertises by partnering with independent video creators; if the latter, that doesn’t seem like a rejection of consumerist marketing, but rather a full embrace of its shallowness.

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hard agree. would love to see more focus on the pre-release and less focus on the hype.

it’s not like Moog has never partnered with “influencers” before…

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Couldn’t wait to share in more detail what my friend Manu from Oxi Instruments was cooking for all this time, and finally here’s a worth sharing format.

I helped on implementation of features more focused for cv outs, randomization menus and LFOs, so basically I told him to code what I needed in a sequencer (and other crazy ideas why not), thanks Manu :kissing_heart:

This is OXI ONE, a full fledged sequencer with the least menu diving without sacrificing any feature, and adding very very interesting ones.

Highlights for me:

  • 8 highly configurable cv outs to be used in any of the modes, even USB Midi or BLE Midi to cv tasks.
  • Chord mode is really painless to sequence and to humanize with strum speed, random voicings, etc.
  • The cv outs can be set to be dynamic clocked envelopes of different shape, i.e., a note triggered AHD with the amplitude or decay related to velocity, so instead of just gates you have a dynamic envelope per note that you can use on VCAs or any other destination. It saves lots of I/O in the rack!
  • LFO per track that can be also routed to any cv out or CC.
  • Clock input is also a cv in for any open parameter.
  • Battery powered and low consumption. One less cable to worry about.
  • In future updates expect it to have compatibility with Norns so it can be a used as a Grid (on top of existing MIDI enabled scripts). I’m craving this one really hard.
  • Tons of well implemented randomness everywhere to keep things interesting but still musical.
  • This list could go for long but there’ll be more demos to showcase much better what it can do.

It’ll have a kickstarter campaign soon (the prototype is fully working with 90% of the current features implemented) and a dedicated forum to discuss features that could be added in the future, also beta testing etc. The plan is to make software and hardware open source if release to the market is successful.

For the price it’s a really feature packed piece of aluminum :smiley:

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This is super exciting and I’m probably gonna back it but I gotta say that the photoshopping of the controller onto one of the Output Platform promo photos is hilarious :sob:

real talk though said friend may wanna replace that image before Output asks them too

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Huh! Good call. Told him and It’s out. Looks it was a test pic before making the real one, but since it’s public…
Web is still in progress :slight_smile:

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Awesome, always great to hear that! The features y’all have packed into the price point you’re targeting is very impressive. The one thing I don’t see mentioned that would be really sweet would be ableton link support, pretty incredible on norns.

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TOMORROW

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If I’m not mistaken, Ableton Link support would require WiFi connectivity.

Ah didn’t realize that, scratch that then

Basically we had to choose between BLE and wifi and went with the former because of functionality.
There’s going to be BLE sensors and modules in the future that will open the possibilities, not mentioning the existing apps for mobile platforms that can take advance of a serious sequencer at play, much more than having a specific DAW feature for tempo. You can still send clock using the usb cable.

We have a proto wristband BLE enabled that can act as a 3D axis modifier for any parameter, even cv out directly. So yeah, ciao Ableton Link :slight_smile:
Ah, it’s really affordable, not like the ones currently marketed. It’s an accelerometer with BLE and battery, cmon, how expensive could it be?

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its hard to find one piece of music in this video that appeals to me.
As a modular noob that’s part of the sell…

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I’ve been keeping half an eye on this one since I like several of u-he’s plugins. I heard from a couple of beta testers today that despite all the functionality, it is really easy to use and they expect people who try it will want more than one.

I wound up pre-ordering one. It seems friendlier to use as a matrix mixer than the AI008 I have now. I don’t really need another sequencer/sequential switch that much, but a quantizer is welcome and the “Mucorder” strikes me as kind of a different take on the “x” side of Marbles.

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It looks interesting, but I’m curious why you feel it will be friendlier as a matrix mixer? Pushing an encoder to swap between inputs seems like a good use of the interface, but I would imagine having a dedicated knob per point on the matrix like a traditional matrix mixer is easier to use?

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Sure. I started with the Doepfer matrix mixer, where everything is aligned on a grid and makes complete sense:

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When I want to adjust the amount of input 2 going to output C, it’s immediately obvious which knob to turn.

Then I switched to the AI008, which is a 4-input, 3-output matrix where the jacks don’t align with the knobs, and there is a fourth output jack that confuses matters, a basically useless mix of A+B+C outputs.

Also the font is smaller and thinner, and unless I move it to one of the top rows in my case, the angle is such that the knob markings are hidden by the knobs themselves (they’re tall).

If I want to adjust the knob for input 2 going to output C, I have to think about it, kind of do a geometric transform or count off and I find the process just slows me down. I wound up using Bananuts and pinstripe tape to make color associations between the input jacks and the rows, and to sort of “black out” the A+B+C jack:

The color coding is an improvement, but to me it seems like the CVilization would be as good or better. It makes the two steps of choosing the input and then adjusting the output (or vice versa) more explicit.

In terms of features, CVilization takes me back up to 4x4, it can invert (handy for feedback loops), and it can mute inputs and outputs. And for CV purposes it can quantize, sample+hold, and transpose. I could conceivably use it as a 2x2 feedback mixer while also quantizing a signal on input/output 3, and having a transpose switch for a drone on output 4.

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Will be interested to hear how you like it. A year ago, I would have also preordered, but as nice it looks, I don’t think it would make a big difference in my system. Maybe if I hadn’t just got the Lìon—which I love. That front panel design, though—ugh.

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I am not sure about the AD/DA conversion… :thinking:

I have a AI008 as well, took a bit of time to get used to the layout as well (I was using a regular/non matrix mixer before) but now I can use it blindly, never need to look at the labels. Maybe a bit more working with it/trying it would help?
Or alternatively maybe a regular mixer would be simpler? I’m still considering switching because for my brain a regular mixer still is slightly easier than a matrix mixer.
Something like the tesseract mixers provide pretty much the same functionality in the same hp space just with a regular mixer layout https://www.modulargrid.net/e/tesseract-modular-tex-mix-4-mono-channels. I don’t have any experiences with them though.

Regarding the CVilization: I’d expect a UI that switches channels to be significantly worse in UX than a one fixed one knob per function layout.

I’ve had the AI008 since April and I still am not particularly comfortable with it. The idea of selecting the input channel first and then turning an appropriate output knob makes sense to me from here, but I guess I’ll find out in a few days whether I think it feels good in practice. :slight_smile: Like I’ve said, I’ve heard encouraging things from some beta testers, and I think Urs is pretty good with design overall.

I don’t plan to sell the AI008 until I’ve had CVilization for several weeks, just in case I don’t like the experience or the small extra latency from A/D D/A conversion turns out to be an issue.

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I will await your review. The main thing that appeals to me about Civilization is manipulation of incoming stream, i.e. real melodies not note-spinning.

Yeah, it could be an interesting companion to a regular sequencer. There’s definitely a lot to experiment with.

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