#979

I already have a POD dedicated to this. Way I see it, I wanna go play live using this, twisting some knobs. It looks very inviting, and some of the offerings (eg check how deviations work) are so beautiful. This is a one stop ambient machine!

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#980

*stochastic function generator not included (but almost)

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#981

It actually doesn’t work the same way, isn’t that impressive? It’s not your standard Min Max in how you’re used to from the Stochastic or the Random modules. The deviation is in percentages, so it’s relative to the offset. The images on the manual help a lot.

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#982

I love this clever implementations. They know, it’s there, second thing in the manual.

#983

I probably should’ve been more clear. Not knocking the clouds hype (I’m very curious myself) but it’s encouraging to see so many manufacturers putting out their own spin on granular/looping, especially since the modules must be very resource intensive (R&D and manufacturing) to produce. Nothing but respect.

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#984

I would just make quick note that I’m fairly certain clouds 1 is “misused” in the sense that Emilie intended much more granular exploration than it is often used as (a glorified reverb). There’s certainly no shortage of modulatable parameters.

Anyways, did anyone else see that Noise engineering released BIA (and some others) as an AAX (likely soon to be VST?) Should be super interesting as ITB music producers pick it up, wouldn’t be surprised to hear that sound more often in dubstep music if it does become a VST.

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#985

They had already released some of their modules including BIA as Reason Rack extensions. While you can definitely automate parameters to do the sort of stuff people do in a modular set-up, it definitely feels totally different sitting in a DAW.

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#986

I have BIA in my rack and I don’t see the same ease of use on VST. It shines with tons of modulation.
What I’m more interested about is Desmodus, since it was already on my wishlist and probably needs much less modulation to do its thing.

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#987

Yeah totally, but I just think VSTs are way easier for Ableton/FL users so this is just a lot more accessible. M4L modulators are particularly interesting. But yeah, it won’t be as rewarding an experience.

#988

Idk if I would even go as far as saying it won’t be as rewarding. It’s just completely different even if it’s the same DSP code. It’s actually probably easier for most people to be surgical about where they want modulation in a DAW but if you want happy accidents you’re going to have to work for it. And vice versa for hardware.

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#989

The lines are blurring, though. If I want to modulate a VST in the same ways as a eurorack module, I’ve got at least three options: Bitwig Studio, VCV Rack (with the VCV Host module), and using a CV to MIDI module to literally modulate parameters with my eurorack modules. We could argue over details like resolution and tactile feel, etc., but you can certainly get some happy accidents and off-the-cuff weirdness going in the same ways.

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#990

Yeah totally. I was just speaking to working completely in the box. You can blur the lines until they’re just grey if you want. If you use the DAW in the more traditional way the lines are much starker. On the flip side with how many digital modules there are these days it’s only a matter of time before someone puts a full DAW in a euro module. If someone hasn’t already.

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#991

I owned both BIA and Cursus and couldn’t justify owning them in hardware for my style of music, but will be happy to have them on tap for occasional use as VST plugins. I can still control them via CV, or Bitwig modulators.

Desmodus is the one I’m more interested in though.

This kind of presents a dilemma for me though… I was also thinking about getting a Manis again, but if that’s going to be available as a VST, that might be good enough for me.

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#992

Once the VST drops I will probably get BIA just for interesting kicks. I had one in eurorack but I felt like I didn’t unlock the whole potential, with a lot of modulation it was a bit too wacky and unpredictable to me, the sweet spot for my ears and taste was quite narrow and I couldn’t justify keeping it for just the four on the floor boom boom. But I sure liked those kicks.

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#993

For me the key is repetitive modulation madness, set to a sequencing state. Voltage Block is the way.

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#994

Surprised by Noise Engineering’s choice to make it AAX only at first. Curious to hear people’s thoughts on the business motivation for prioritizing AAX first.

#995

Yeah, that surprised me too. For Microfreak they mentioned that they use and like the Microfreak themselves, so it was natural to design for it. So maybe they are primarily Pro Tools users? Again, surprising, but who knows. Or maybe Avid offered them some sort of deal.

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#996

According to the blurb BIA rack extension has

  • Back-panel CV inputs are available for all controls

and there are some nice tools in reason that could make bia reach into happy accident territory.

#997

I have all the Noise Engineering rack extensions in Reason and I find it’s so easy to just plug all the CV inputs into other CV tools that I have to intentionally limit myself from going overboard.

@OhWell they released their plugins for Reason first. They released on Reason first because Reason Studios helped them a lot with development. I wouldn’t be surprised if they had a similar arrangement with Avid.

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#998

How does the Basimilus Iteritas Vereor sound in practice. (Ans the other vereor REs).