#61

i was looking at the links you provided and couldn’t help but notice i have a lot of old monome apps not on either list. if it it interests you i could go through this weekend and see what exactly is missing.

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#62

That would be awesome. Let me know how I can help you help all of us. :slight_smile:

#63

Feeling a bit thick but I admit I’m not clear on what exactly that is! Looks to me like we have a few differing advices… Personally, I’d love something a bit more crisp and maybe put in the main repo README. I think we’re all together in spirit but coming from the software world, I’ve found that being explicit about licensing is ultimately good for everyone and actually encourages rather than discourages a lively ecosystem (assuming a non-draconian license). If that’s just me though I’m happy to just stick with my personal gut and lean towards over attribution in cases where I might want to evolve bits.

#64

Curious about this. And sorry to not have the context. Do you mean in the monome hardware realm?

EDIT: found this old thread which seems relevant.

I actually think you’re selling yourselves short. Like I said in my follow-up to @jasonw22, I think there’s tangible benefit to the ecosystem when you get clear on licensing and you have so much good stuff to build on here. Anyway, this is a big topic. Rather than derail this thread if folks want to hash that out, maybe we should kick off another?

#65

Sounds good to me. Please make a proposal I think we could use one.

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#66

Good deal. I’m traveling for the next few days and will follow-up when I can get some thoughts together.

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#67

resposting the full link address:

http://archive.monome.org/community/discussion/2646/whats-your-definition-of-open-source-hardware/p1

memory lane, wow. shout out to @Galapagoose (enjoi)

interesting read for anyone curious when open source hardware happened. those days had lots of feelings.

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#68

i miss some of them folk

particularly @stretta

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#69

@glia for reals @stretta

"I’m a tea snob.

Technically, all tea comes from the same plant, Camellia sinensis. So, when someone who is sipping their Celestial Seasons calls what they’re drinking ‘tea’, it is my obligation to inform them the correct term is ‘herbal infusion’

I can do this because, in the strictest technical sense, I’m right.
It also makes me a douchebag."

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#70

Has there been any discussion on porting community favorites (license depending) to Ansible, Aleph, or a similar open-source hardware platform?

It seems like it would be valuable to have a stable, consistent platform for some of these apps, as Max and/or OS updates have killed off many of them.

#71

I remember that quote like it was yesterday…

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#72

[quote=“trickyflemming, post:70, topic:1989”]
Has there been any discussion on porting community favorites (license depending) to Ansible, Aleph, or a similar open-source hardware platform?
[/quote] yes, some of the most vibrant, productive, and entertaining conversations on this forum imho

scattered in a few spots but for most of what you’re looking for, start here

in retrospect
ansible might not exist with those ideas getting fleshed out and i hope the progression continues

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#73

It’s been over five years since I last posted around here. (Well, technically it wasn’t around here at all; it was on the old monome forum.)

Fast forward to this week, when I picked up a gs128 to replace the one I sold in 2014. My first step was to plug it in to a legacy Windows XP tower I still maintain, preserved in amber with all the old monome stuff installed from 2010. I started monomeserial, opened patches in Max 4.6, and…it all worked! Over the past few days I’ve spent hours diving back into 64fingers, mlr 2.27, repeat, NPC60, flip, 64step, dj64, wolves, neptune, etc. Oh, and chipchopchip. Love that thing.

So, yeah, I just want to say thanks to those who are keeping the embers of the old patches alive. I doubt there are many of us out here still running monomeserial at this point, but we do exist!

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#74

I have to admit that my curation efforts sort of broke down when I got to the Ms and ran into all the mlr variations. And I’ve run out of steam to pick it back up. What I was doing was verifying which things worked consistently as advertised, and then I was creating individual repos for each project, for those apps that did work.

Would love to see that effort picked up by someone…

(Also, I was focused on serialosc, so more attention to monomeserial apps would be great)

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#75

Hey @antiphon welcome back :wave:

#76

Thanks @declutter. Or should I say…@rross101?

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#77

As I go through my old “monome” folders–there are dozens and dozens of them–I’ll see if there aren’t apps that never made it to GitHub (that chipchopchip patch might be one of them). I’m a bit of a Luddite, so I may need advice about the whole procedure, but I might be able to pick up the baton on cataloging and testing the monomeserial stuff.

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#78

As someone who has regularly NEEDED to update his hardware, its so cool to hear that many of these COULD still work. This does strike me as the greatest sales point of the Norns. Maybe one day we could begin a project of actually rebuilding some of the more bonkers scripts that would work well on the new platform…

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#79

Happy to walk you through it all. Hit me up in DM.

#80

I mean, it’s still a platform that sees regular updates, and scripts will sometimes break just like anywhere else. If app developers aren’t vigilant, their work could die for a while. Sometimes until the community sees fit to revive it.

Reviving an app is obviously easier in something whose apps are distributed as editable source files. But that’s still max and pd as much as it’s lua and supercollider. It’s a selling point for anything community driven.

That said, if nothing’s broken and you refuse to run updates, your setup is bulletproof. But I’m not sure I’d want that to be a selling point. People should run updates and grab current software. Especially on Norns.

Which reminds me, I should run updates and grab current software.

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