i just tried that and yes, earthsea stops when i “hot swap” / do not use switch. sometimes it does not stop, but starts the pattern over when i hot swap. this behavior occurs when i use switch sometimes too. also noticed that earthsea will sometimes start a pattern if it is paused and i use switch or hot swap. my apologies in advance for the confusion as it is kind of hard to describe all the inconsistencies.

got it. which grid edition are you using? i’m saying this because some pretty old grids (a very narrow edition) had a bug where they’d have the keys in an uncertain state on startup and blast some random keys at startup— and the ansible module is likely less immune to than a computer with serialosc (which would basically throw them away)

i have a grayscale 128 grid

hey so i’m still having issues using switch to jump between earthsea and norns mlr. before, i couldn’t sample earthsea because patterns would stop ( or start when unwanted ) when i swithed to mlr. the issue remains only now with the latest update, norns often seems to freeze when i switch to it. sometimes earthsea doesn’t show up on the grid too. again, i have a grayscale 128 grid, are they the grids you know to have an issue with switch?

also, is anyone else using switch with norns? or switch at all? any sort of tip would be greatly appreciated

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i’ll do some testing with a switch, gs, norns, es. will get back to you, i’m very sorry for the trouble!

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No worries. I know you are probably swamped right now. Thank you very much

tested and confirmed the bug after some switching. it’s on the list:

in the meantime i wouldn’t recommend this configuration with the gs and the switch.

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I have experienced similar issues with the switch, and walnut grid.
(Just adding to exchange above)

thank you very much. very nice to know i’ts not just me haha. it really would be a dream setup to have norns mlr and earthsea togeheter.

As a slight side step to this, what is the best way to change over from say ansible, earthsea and norns, without the switch module?

Recording in MLR then changing to modular and back, the grid flashes as I plug it back into norns but then doesn’t light up or respond until I re-launch MLR, meaning I have to start again.

I don’t use external power for my grid.

Any thoughts/workarounds appreciated!

hot-swapping should just work with both modules and norns. what grid are you using and which norns version?

Using grayscale grid, purchased band new from monome in (I think) May last year, and latest software version of norns.

sorry for bumping an old topic but I’m having some problems using switch with meadowphysics and norns and probably is not worth creating a new topic.

I’m using switch to swap my grid between meadowphysics and norns (norns is sending cv/gate to crow).
sometimes when switching from norns to meadowphysics, norns just freezes. it becomes completely unresponsive, I have to shut it down with the reset button. this happens several times a day.

I have norns, crow and meadowphysics with the latest updates/firmware and I have one of the new grids. this is not specific to a norns script.

if I swap the usb cable from meadowphysics to norns, this does not happen, it only happens using switch and it also happens without using crow.
so, probably a switch issue?..
does anyone have a similar situation? how can this be solved?

we noticed a bug pop up recently that possibly crashes norns when you disconnect a usb device.

hoping to have it fixed very soon, apologies for the trouble. norns is the issue, not switch.

thanks for the info @tehn!
a fix would be great, I have a gig this friday and this is kind of problematic, hope the fix becomes available before friday :pray:

this is a complex issue and i am sorry to suggest that i would recommend a workaround for friday. :grimacing:

hopefully we can fix it, but last time we saw this sort of issue it ended up being a rabbit hole.

oh :confused: ok.

this got me confused, thought it was a simple fix :slight_smile:
I have to find a workaround then :thinking: good luck with that rabbit hole!

Do you know how to connect over serial or SSH?
It would be useful if we could determine if just some processes died or the whole system and then check if we can fine some info about why in the logs.

yes I know how to connect via SSH, but I don’t know how to view or get you the logs. with your guidance I can try it.

which grid edition and norns (2018/2019, shield, fates) are you using?

having a hard time replicating the grid unplug bug, but the midi unplug bug i can replicate so far