Procedural / Generative Poetry etc

[solaris]

I found a few very old max patches, mostly done by / done with / copied from a friend,
here’s a couple of screenshots:

[tsintsi]

thanks for all the cool works, folks!

@jzed house of dust is the closest to the kind of thing I want to do - I think my goal is to more inject my own bits of language (either as specific as words or as vague as a style of writing or mood) and then have something scramble it.

the max patch I posted is so simple that I barely define it as a generational process or app - instead of creating a completely new piece by itself, I give it the raw materials and lend it the job of formatting. it feels kinda lazy but I’m not sure if it is really (it probably is). here’s a link to the patch + the .txt file full of raw materials - https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ryq37yqgvcmg4b/poem.zip?dl=0

edit - the write to text file function is kinda broken for whatever reason, it outputs a file but isn’t natively recognized as .txt

[rarestorms]

Check out this recent Ben Vida piece https://technosphere-magazine.hkw.de/p/4-Heteroglossic-Riot-htw88uV5pNadqVLmj77mT9 … that whole issue about “Machine Listening” has some interesting work…the C. Spencer Yeh piece is great and uses speech but is not generative afaik.

[infovore]

Just joining in to follow along - glad the long history of the topic is being exposed, and somebody’s beat me to mentioning both Queneau and Allison Parish. I’ve played a lot with generative prose - both from Markov chains and slightly more sophisticated methods, such as grammars and copying form of other text. I also remixed a microstory by Jeff Noon into a physical artefact that generates ‘more’ of the books it’s fed. Which you might enjoy.

Tight corpuses, with a clear style, make for good bodies to feed into statistical processes like Markov Chains - the bot I run making infinite descriptions for chocolates works well precisely because chocolate-box-descriptions are so purple.

I love this stuff.

[shortsleeves]

Nothing useful, really, just wanted to say this is the best thread ever!

Cheers,
Lukasz

[mdg]

def! cosign 100x (and 20 char)

[mdg]

oh wow love this Ben Vida piece!

[emenel]

So much great stuff already posted!

If you want to see this sort of stuff applied to humour, with deep research, check out http://aiweirdness.com

Especially posts like this machine learning ice cream flavour generator: http://aiweirdness.com/post/173990761332/generated-ice-cream-flavors-now-its-my-turn

[pleurodesis]

Forgot that I made this out of the Amharic translation cycles. Using slightly different options made totally different translations. All the results are on the right side.

(Gotta open in new page to see large, I think. Sorry.)

[solaris]

“death is death and death” that’s excellent, thanks for sharing.
what translator did you use for it?

[pleurodesis]

Just google, actually. It works totally differently depending on how you paste the translation back in (whether using the other alphabet or the English pronunciation and so on), though it looks like they changed its method a bit since I last tried.

[yes]

Oh

WordHack

Relevant for NYC folks especially but I am not in NYC and still subscribe to the newsletter of event notices

Just because interesting projects are mentioned, then those people have interesting portfolios, and so on

[karol]

I have been toying yesterday with gpt-2 https://github.com/openai/gpt-2 and unfortunately the smaller model doesn’t perform as well as the model they are showing in blogpost but still for AI related question it responded with answer that sounds like something that AI could say:

Model prompt >>> Will the AI overlords treat us well?
======================================== SAMPLE 1 ========================================
What do we regret, for instance? Is our children even allowed to go to you?
Do we have to navigate over ourselves in Holodomor? 
When will our children be able continue their studies, become teachers,
godlings and so much more? 
In hunger, thirst and economy,-what do we feed them?
Only--harvest them for our idleness."

[bassling]

I like Ekphrasis (and I also like using that word to describe creative process), particularly when writing haiku to describe the feelings evoked by an image. The syllable constraint makes that work for me but I’d guess I could try another set of rules, like not using pronouns or something.

[Vessel]

I’ve had a lot of interesting times making odd generative art with argeiphontes lyre

http://akirarabelais.com/o/software/al.html

[spacetime]

Amazing thread! I’m co-curating an exhibition that much of this relates to. If anyone is in NYC in March, please join us. Would be great to see you there!

[Brian_Callahan]

Hey all- Love this topic. I’ve always been into generative music and writing (thanks, ENO). I’m trying to find an old program I used to love but lost- Random Verse Lab. It was a simple list-and-template sort of poem generator, but It was very usable and fun, and all links mentioning it online are dead. Anyone have an old rvl32.exe lying around?

[Cementimental]

This is pretty astonishing / creepy https://talktotransformer.com/

[pleurodesis]

This is my cat, Jack. He has a sister named Lucy. He likes to ride it. She’s been sleeping with him from about April through September. He’s always had friends who have been friends with Lucy. Jack was a really good friend to me in high school. I went to him in eighth grade. He was good. He never hurt me. He said he never hurt anybody. I was really close with some of our friends. Jack was good. All my friends knew him and he went out of the neighborhood, but not all of the ones I knew.

I had a lot of friends who didn’t have a dog. We could spend days together. I had no friends that I couldn’t go hang out in the apartment just hanging out. They were my friends. A lot of times they would come over. I knew they might be older, if they had kids then too. They might have friends older than mine, which I think is a nice thing to have. A lot of them didn’t like my girlfriend from high school (Gretchen) so she wasn’t there. Then I thought, what the hell can the other sister do that I can’t do?

[esc746]

I used to do lots of recombinant text experiments, which I started in the early nineties. Definitely inspired by Bill Burroughs. I even published a book, Tragedy of the Sun and Stars, and an album to accompany it. Ah! The days of grandiose projects!