i do have kontakt and soundtoys complete bundle, but cycles is way too expensive. im sure its worth it though. Kontakt is worth it for the Output engines and una corda alone. but its also great for doing granular sampling across a mapped keyboard with its own sample engine. i like the time stretch options it has (time machine, etc).
that stereo panning is a really good idea. i love echo boy. crystallizer would be cool for this too i think. i used that one all the time for a while.
I’ve been trying to figure out how to order my effects chain. the thyme and ventris are stereo and the ventris has an echo engine and an “offspring” engine that sort of has a weird tremolo spring effect that might be cool. right now i have Digitone (with 0-coast and cue out from Octatrack running through it’s two external audio inputs)>Thyme>Outward>Ventris. I had the Ventris after the Outward before i got the Thyme because I didn’t really want the Clouds-like smearing effect and i thought that granulizing everything in the signal chain would be cooler than washing it all out with reverb. but if i go Outward>Thyme>Ventris (or even swap Ventris with Thyme) I may be able to do something like this.
Thyme has a reverse polarity for the stereo outs which might produce some cool results with the grains from outward. it also has external clock sync and i can p lock the preset sequencer to my octatrack midi channel to control it rhythmically. then if i want, i can further spread them out with some careful ventris routing. I realize this could be much easier using them as send/return effects but my cue outs are full and i get nasty feedback when trying fx send with the octatrack. maybe something like the vfe klein bottle would be nice in the future.