Revisit Something (Disquiet Junto Project 0275)

a few years ago i make a small carwash film (a youtube link follows). now at disquiet0275 project i put the audio in ableton live and make noise:) have fun!

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Disquiet Junto Project 0275: Revisit Something
The Assignment: Make a track all over again.

This week I’m going way back to disquiet0137 “Old Time Electronica”, (my favourite disquiet project). For DJ137 I made a track called “Cluster Fudge”. In the process of making that track I came up with a load of material and ideas that I intended to use in other projects. I made a start on a number of tracks, finishing two. Shortly after finishing the second track on my laptop, the hard drive died. I lost the finished track but had many of the components on my main system and a fragment of the track as a sketch at the end of another project file. For two years Ive been meaning to recreate it, this weeks project has given me the impetus to try again.

The result is close to the original, the key elements are the same, the mix is about right but feels just a bit different to my memory of it.

For context, Dj137 is here:

and the first track I completed using the same techniques as DJ137 is here:

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A track that began with descent into underground enclosed limestone cave with flowing stream - lugging along a chaotic synth drone machine; as you do! Amazing afternoon, your mileage may vary… (note, this was balanced as a room mix, not headphone, and is a fine place to sit if you have a little breathing space)
More details posted with track:

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Revisit a track, without listening. Last week I had for the first time tried to integrate the computer in making music, I was struggling and managed to get together a short track of 1:10. What I had had in mind was to create a drone sound getting more and more intense without getting louder. This time I managed, and … as often is the case … as I was in the process of working on this piece it went into a different direction than I had imagined. Suddenly there was this idea to record some drums and bass, but I wanted it to sound different in the two parts. Once this was done, I felt like adding a guitar part, and this being finished, I listened and felt something was still missing there. So I recorded a second guitar to both parts - and thats it.
Now I am keen on how the other contributions will sound

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Suss Müsik owns a copy of Pearlman’s Guide to Rapid Revision, first published in 1965. The book is currently in its eighth printing. This means that an instructional manual on how to revise is, in and of itself, a revision.

Although Nietzsche considered eternal returns to be the heaviest of burdens, poet Alice Notley had a different take. “Your face comes clearer as time passes,” she wrote, “as if goodbye were forever younger like your face.” When it comes to developing an idea, sometimes putting distance between effort and output helps to clarify things.

Suss Müsik re-examined Junto 0272, a project in homage to the TRAPPIST-1 planetary system. The original piece is constructed around polyrhythms played in various ratios, which we simplified to eight phrases of six notes apiece. Each sequence was played on piano, strings and marimba, then phased according to orbital frequencies we attempted to recall from memory. (Some “cheating” was likely involved along the way. Apologies to TRAPPIST-1 enthusiasts.)

The piece is titled Meiosis, which is a type of cell division in which sperm and egg cells are produced by reducing the number of chromosomes in the parent cell. Without this form of “revision,” human life would not exist. The image is liquid soap in a glass jar.

Suss Müsik deeply appreciates the kind feedback we received from our fellow Junto 0272 participants. It is an honor to take part in this weekly exercise among such wonderfully gifted and talented contributors.

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https://youtu.be/ATalMRzDFGo

The track above is the original and uses a recording of Phillip Spelman’s “Redjar Redbottle” sculpture. It caught my ear when I visited Bathurst, so I returned with my camera and contact microphone and sampled it.

At home I manipulated the recording using Ableton Live, which handily handles video that can then be exported and manipulated elsewhere.

Remixing landscapes has been one of my musical practises for about five years now and draws on skills I learned from Alan Lamb, who builds large-scale aeolian harps and records them.

When I started sampling playgrounds in 2011 there were comments from people that they wanted to see where the sounds originated, which prompted me to start making videos.

Below is my revised version of the material. It’s a new song and I’ve written about some of the techniques employed on my blog, if you click here.

https://youtu.be/UPhu5yGujQM

@disquiet great photo to accompany the project this week.

Thanks everyone, looking forward to comparing your results and learning about your approaches.

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submission for junto project 0275 : Revisit Something

When Marc’s email hits my inbox I’m always surprised that the week is already coming to an end - and looking back I’m amazed at Marc’s creativity and drive to keep this project going. Thank you Marc!

On my desktop I have a folder “C:\Users\Matt\Desktop\BOUNCES” it’s where I point abletons output to. Marc’s instruction was to “Consider pieces of music you have completed in the recent past.” - there wasn’t much in the very recent past (new hobbies squeeze out old). So I chose something that was 7 years old but I’ve aways liked it. I opened the old ableton session, noted each track and it’s contents, printed my notes, then sat in the garden (it’s a very nice day), and re-recorded it. It’s a loopy, music for airports inspired, thing. It felt nice to do this.

laptop, guitar, pre-amp, mic, 30 meter extensions cable, wildlife noises
(the last bit is the old version)

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That was a smart move tagging the original at the end of the track.

I really love how you use ghost images to trace the various layers of performance.

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Looking for a track to revisit, I had a track I couldn’t remember at all. I decided to redo it going by the title. Added the constraints that I would start by performing it live with no click track and no ability to edit or auto-tune the vocal. Listened to the first version after the fact to find out its an instrumental! The original is here:www.soundcloud.com/lawrence-frazier-1 – Candle-to-the-night

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https://soundcloud.com/ohm-research/i-ngised-disquiet-0275

With this piece I had two objectives: I finally did Disquiet 0230 from May 2016, which I missed due to travel, and I did it in “broken sound” fashion. I didn’t really feel I succeeded in doing a “broken sound” piece last week with Disquiet 0274.

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Very appropriate to visit older unfinished material as Mercury goes retrograde.

A track in progress. had started and abandoned the beginnings of this early last fall, but as luck would have it, have been revisiting and remaking it lately.

Seemed appropriate for this Disquiet project.

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Hi,

I went back to my first Junto(not that long ago), number 0250 ‘Soothing sounds’
The day after I posted that song, I regretted it a bit, because it was for a new born baby and I called the song: “Soothing nightmares for Junto”, not really suitable.
For my new version I only used flute sounds and that’s it, much better for babies to listen to.

https://soundcloud.com/user-242143924/soothing-dreams-for-juntodisquiet0275

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Hello Juntonians,
Broken China(disquiet0275) https://soundcloud.com/user-651760074/broken-chinadisquiet0275
https://soundcloud.com/user-651760074/broken-chinadisquiet0275

Music-When this prompt was emailed I had an idea for revisiting a track started before using some acoustic instruments I have about. Started out actually trying to find where they went to! Once found, the broken Hero toy accordion wouldn’t play nicely with the others :-/ So backup plan B, revisit an older recording that needed major board work. That proved time consuming as well and the results are still in question. Then for a mental break I recorded some ceramic bowl sounds in response to William Boldenweck’s talk of broken bell jars and another member (whos name I unfortunately can’t remember) mention of kintsukuroi, a Japanese technique of ceramic repair. The bowls where amazingly musical and so I created a clock chime sound signifying 10:00 and things went crazy! The first section is as recorded, the next 2x speed, the next 4x speed and the last 1/2 speed. They each play in succession and then collide for the last section, meanwhile a mixdown of that is introduced through the Dedalus delay/sampler/mangler in a separate track. The third track is a simple Micrologue bass line for mass :wink: Recorded through a Zoom H2 into AudioShare and sent to Cubasis for mixing and mangling. While not where I started, I did revisit something broken!

Video-Filmed on a bloggie and recorded sound through a Zoom H2(shown in the middle of the bowls) into an iPad running Audioshare. Video mangled and edited in iMovie.

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https://soundcloud.com/glsmyth/looking-for-planes-looking-disquiet0275

When I decided to start writing music again the first piece I envisioned was Looking For Planes, a reference to my granddaughter’s fascination with airplanes. The initial attempt ran out of steam and I shelved it, working on other things. With reflection I came to realize that I had not so much run out of ideas but that I needed bookends to what had been written.

This short piece is an introduction to the full piece, which I will return to, and will follow that with a coda.

This piece is written for two pianos.

The score is available at http://bit.ly/2oUqYh8

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tincture
ins cure
curtains

there are two sides to every tape.
i wanted to make something simple from the reverse side of a tapeloop i created a while ago. this ended up being a sort of crude b-side:

not quite as simple as the “original” track, but a sort of shadow version that exists as something else in itself. it’s sound collage with some cut up vocals i has recorded on a whim a couple months ago. wordplay was meaningless in the moment but becomes something when repeated. i would like to make an even simpler version of this.
the flipside

here’s “clink / glint” the a-side of the cassette tape loop track:

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i’ve been doing the junto coming on 2 years. i wanted to celebrate that by redoing my first junto track and kind of to mark how much i’ve learnt since then - largely in part by the breadth of these projects.

but then i was kind of uninspired by the original so changed my mind. weirdly, that same day the original track came on random on my phone (out of 14,000 tracks) and i took that a sign. also i reflected on how i used to put some of my own music on my, well, i used an mp3 player back then. getting back into music the tracks were more memorable but now i’m making so much i can barely remember how i made the tracks i did yesterday.

the structure is similar in that i’ve reversed the first half to create a palindrome but i’ve switched between ableton audacity and audition which is what i tend to do at the moment.

recreation of https://hearthis.at/sevenism/spring-palindromes-dark-winter-snippets-disquiet0177-netlabelportrait/

(original instructions:
Step 1: Create a new piece of music by using nothing but the following segments of the following songs:

Use the first 30 seconds from “Part 1″ off Scott Lawlor’s World of Ice and Snow:
www.darkwinter.com/dw095.html

Use the first 30 seconds from “Underground Shelter” off Nadador Nocturno’s Harsh Winters in the Distance:
www.darkwinter.com/dw096.html

Use the first 30 seconds from “DSM III – The Cristalline Entity” off Ovdk vs Seetyca’s Allegorik Symptom Before the Cataclysm:
www.darkwinter.com/dw097.html)

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+1 Really nice use of ghost images.

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Here’s mine: https://soundcloud.com/plusch/redo-disquiet0275

Not much time to work on this one. I revisited https://soundcloud.com/plusch/stitches-in-time-disquiet0264
I used the same sample as on the first one, but this time scanned through it in Reaktor, using a Stereo Sample Scanner with modulation from several other Blocks. (Made use of Michael Hetrick’s great Euro Reakt collection in the Reaktor User Library at www.native-instruments.com/en/reaktor-…/show/9093/)

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