Running multiple apps on grid?

jasonw22 · 2016-01-21T15:01:15.395Z

Smallbatch would seem to do this, but I’m honestly a bit confused as to how to make it work with apps that aren’t included in monome_sum.

Edit: so, for example, I’ll load up monome_sum, then click “auto load” on the second to last scene, then open the meadowphysics two patch, which opens Max and loads meadowphysics there. But at that point it seems I can either have meadowphysics or smallbatch connected to the monome, and when smallbatch is connected, meadowphysics doesn’t work.

@tehn, @Galapagoose, any suggestions?

ithkaa · 2016-01-21T16:28:33.921Z

@jasonw22 smallbatch doesn’t do splitting but yeah, you can run multiple patches at the same time (and varibright is supported). downside is that it also uses an older version of serialosc. I’m really happy with the current serialosc (the one that comes with Max 7) so I’m a bit reluctant to ‘downgrade’ (my) patches.

Think you need to take smallbatch from the sourcefiles on github instead of the one that comes with sum.

jasonw22 · 2016-01-21T16:31:12.400Z

Where’s the github page? This is the only non-monome_sum version of smallbatch I can find:
http://archive.monome.org/docs/app:smallbatch

ithkaa · 2016-01-21T16:57:04.035Z

sum is here

jasonw22 · 2016-01-21T16:58:31.658Z

Hmm, so you’re saying it needs to be torn apart. That’s unfortunate.

fluxsta · 2016-01-21T17:03:29.738Z

At least you guys have answered a question for me. That’s why small batch doesnt work for me, because of the serialosc version. I’m not too good with keeping up with which version works with what. As far as pulling stuff apart I’m not good with Max

jasonw22 · 2016-01-21T17:06:44.937Z

FWIW, monome_sum works fine for me with serialosc v1.4 (even though it installs v1.2, I just installed v1.4 afterwards). I don’t see why smallbatch would require an older version of serialosc.

I might try tearing smallbatch out of monome_sum later today (unless someone can tell me the archive.monome.org version is a better starting point). But first I plan to get outside and do some hiking.

fluxsta · 2016-01-21T17:06:50.794Z

Running multiple apps is good, but being able to split as well is good. The answer obviously lies in the version of serialosc. I use Max 7 or 6/5 if using mlrv as it seems most stable in that. The standalone mlrv seems to crash. I used to run mlrv and polygome using small batch or quadrants. It is clear that serialosc 1.4 is the issue. I dip in and out of monome use and each time I seem to get a stable connection with everything then stuff changes, and I encounter these issues again. Sorry, stream of consciousness there

ithkaa · 2016-01-21T17:13:14.296Z

@jasonw22 you could use the archive version but I’m sure it doesn’t support varibright grids. If you’d really want that I have the led-router.je and the router.js from the sum version.

jasonw22 · 2016-01-21T17:14:48.887Z

Yeah, would want varibright support. I see those files in github. Thanks!

jasonw22 · 2016-01-21T17:26:11.641Z

You know, I don’t think there’s any reason to separate smallbatch from monome_sum. What I’m gathering is that apps need to be a bit customized to work with smallbatch/monome_sum. mainly, each app needs to delegate monome connection to smallbatch. Is this correct?

ithkaa · 2016-01-21T18:46:28.509Z

@jasonw22 yeah, i think smallbatch creates udp connections for communication with (to and from) the serialoscs in the ‘slave’ patches. so both smallbatch and any slave app should have a version of serialosc that allows for this communication. i guess customizing the app would come down to putting in the proper version of serialosc …

jasonw22 · 2016-01-21T19:05:24.732Z

It’d be nice to hear from the folks that wrote it…

declutter · 2016-08-04T20:28:27.526Z

Resurrecting this thread - what are people using to run multiple apps on their grids?

fluxsta · 2016-08-04T23:25:31.748Z

Good call @declutter…tried quadrants and also pages but have had issues with both of them. Quadrants is solid for me with mlr and polygome, but any ther apps I just have issues. Keen to see if anyone has a rock solid way of working?

instantjuggler · 2016-08-04T23:32:12.972Z

i’ve been using quadrants 2 but need to open all the apps in just the right order for it all to line up with led feedback and such. takes quite a few tries to get it rolling but then is super stable so far…

sensum_clunch · 2016-09-24T07:19:27.652Z

A general switch app would be fantastic - I’ve tried Pages and found it a bit of a tangle. I do really like the gesture for it though - press the bottom right button and the Pages you have that are open appear as lit buttons in order from the bottom left - select, release and you are in that app.

I’m not that fussed about getting to stuff outside of Max, just to be able to shift focus between several grid hungry patches without needing to re-do each of them.

mel_gonzalez · 2016-12-08T19:01:26.918Z

Hey all,

Anyone have any clues on this?
Have tried most things and either couldn’t get it to work or i think it just didn’t work.

Holl1f3ld · 2017-01-22T11:36:40.269Z

The smallbatch in elquintos suite handles this. To make it work with other patch requires redirecting the location of the serialosc file in the patch inspector. I just redirected to the location of the serialosc file used by one the elquinto patches.

EDIT: I see the smallbatch that I is no longer available. If you would like to try it out PM me.

Is there an updated version of smallbatch floating around anywhere, can’t seem to get the autoload option working.

Eric_You · 2018-01-23T20:52:30.862Z

Bumping this thread… this seems like the most imminent issue for me trying to use different apps together. It looks as the majority of people have moved onto modular, but I’d like to see the software side of things more complete, too. Still digging…