Yeah my little mic pre thing is ideal for this…buuuuuuuuut the opamp that it’s designed around is now out of stock everywhere, and it looks like early 2023 for a restock. Super annoying.

Is there any way to use my Shure SM7B with this script? I imagine having phantom power on the input channel that the Norns is going into would not be a good idea or even a proper signal path. The SM7B is the only mono microphone I have… I’ve tried using the opz’s microphone as well as my Zoom H1n but being as they are both stereo I don’t think I’m getting the best experience possible with this amazing script. I have a cloud lifter for the Shure but that’s it as far as preamps go… I do have a JHS boost/preamp pedal as well, wondering if that might be of use? or not so much because it still wouldn’t provide phantom power? or maybe run my shure into a tc helicon voice play that provides phantom power before the input on the Norns shield? just trying to feel out what is safe!

no phantom needed for an SM7B as its a dynamic, but also a mic pre won’t pass PP to its outs. just plug the out of the pre into norns as normal.

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my god lol… I definitely misunderstood the sm7b years ago getting into all this as a mic that required phantom power and just never challenged that initial thought process. I just googled it and can very clearly see I was wrong. So first and foremost thank you for setting that straight for me! And to be clear you are recommending I try my sm7b into the JHS Clover boost pedal, and the balanced out of that into the input of Norns shield?

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Norns shield takes stereo, rather than balanced, but sch allows you to use the left as the input and the right as the backing, so if you use that mode and turn down the “background” audio to 0 it should work.

(Balanced has the left and right 180 out of phase so using sch in its default “sum the channels” mode will result in no input)

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I know this thread is not about microphones, but I’ve gotta ask a follow-up question about Phantom power. Are there any switches on the back of the microphone that allow the Shure to function without phantom power? I just tested mine out and it does not send any signal unless I press the phantom power button on my mixer input.

Edit: I think the problem is the cloud lifter does require phantom power. Will try bypassing that next time I am at the studio.

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correct, the Cloud Lifter turns phantom power into +25dB of volume. it consumes all of the phantom power to do so, and does not pass any phantom power on to the mic itself. so if the Cloud Lifter is in your signal path, you need phantom power. Without it, you do not need phantom power, but you’ll likely want to find a way to get those 25dB of volume back so that your signal is at “line level” (the volume that most gear, including norns, expects audio to be at)

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Is this script still being developed and polished? I followed the thread for a while before I sold my Norns. Just got one of the new batch and am excited to try this script.

well, the author continues to be an active contributor to norns in both scripting and the main codebase :slight_smile:

I used this script in three songs on my upcoming album—it worked like a charm each time, so I guess I’m not sure what is needed in terms of development and polishing?

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That is great to hear that there is a stable version in the wild. The early listening samples are brilliant. Do you have a link to your work that incorporates this script? Hoping that the op1 field can pull midi duty with minimal fuss.

yeah, the ~lead single~ uses sacred cyborg harmony (together with further processing, most notably a stutter effect) for the “backing vocal” vibes in the chorus and bridge. I’ll link to it below:

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This patch is brilliant, many thanks to the dev team. :heart:

Performance question from someone who never uses midi. I’d like to control two parameters while singing and playing: formant and wet/dry mix of OG vocals and sacred choir. I’d like to set those two options to sliders so I can “play” those parameters live. Is this possible, and if so does anyone have a minimal midi slider hardware recommendation?

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Controlling formant is quite possible. Wet/dry isn’t built in, but you can independently control monitor and amplitude, if that suits, or you can code up a wet/dry parameter, or use the matrix mod and the toolkit mod to set up a macro parameter that controls amp in one direction and monitor in the other.

I use my trusty 16n with Norns for slider control all the time.

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TouchOSC could also be a good alternative to turn a tablet or smartphone into sliders without having to buy another thing!

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Absolutely love this script. Thanks so much!!

Is it possible to mute the input like you can do in Antares Harmony Engine? If not it would be a nice feature. (Could send audio from a DAW to this to process live and then mix the source and effect separately)

I think you can just turn down the input monitoring volume on the Norns mixer, no?

You can indeed mute the input in the Norns mixer, or alternately each output voice has an amp param

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20 chars of thanks!!

Gotta say this script is really the most exciting thing I use with Norns right now! Finally have a full track mixed and mastered that uses this script extensively. The track itself is a tender story of a friend who went to the desert to find out why God was so absent, and discovered his truest sexual identity in the process as a gay man. The singing is from a famous line from Julian of Norwich, who wrote “Revelations of Divine Love,” an accounting of her ecstatic experience of God, full of theology considered heretical then and now. Sacred feminine, love as the grounding reality of the divine, the stuff the mainstream religion tries to ignore or undercut.

The main pulsing melody is Cranes looping an OG1 sample of a piano and washing machine in the background in my home. The field recordings are from that beautiful house in the cover art who talked to my friend while he was videoing. Lots of Make Noise FX chains on rubber bridge guitar and other goodness. Full album forthcoming.

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So nice.

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