#1134

I have both DUSG and the Carnivore panel with SSG and Dual Slopes and both require a double patch to retrigger on the fall. Though it does feel like DUSG is more sensitive and it goes further before retrigging, if that makes sense, so unless I’m running a super fast sequence I don’t need to double patch.

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#1135

Are you patching the gate into the DUSG IN as opposed to TRIG IN? I could have sworn that this worked for retrig’ing with a single envelope channel, but maybe I’m mistaken.

#1136

Ha, you know, I stupidly don’t even know if I’ve tried this, I’ve only had these panels for a few months. I’ll try and let you know. I just assumed from using Maths that the trigger in would always give the snappiest envelope.

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#1137

Does your Sing-to-Me not have the pair of VCAs and the unity gain mixer?

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I use this often (or just one VCA, keeping one oscillator (processed or otherwise) at unity gain and devoting a VCA to the other, though it’s not a universal solution.

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#1138

I should try to use the unity gain mixer more, that’s a good recommendation. I do have that, and the dual VCAs. The general signal is one oscillator out + waveshaper out + noise => filter => VCA. And my desire is to be able to mix the pre-filter components with attenuation. As I mention, with the attenuation on the one of the VQVCF inputs I’m almost there, but not quite.

#1139

So checking this out right now, retrigger does work on IN.
Good to know!

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#1140

Here’s a Serge / Blippoo improv I uploaded today

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#1141

My Loudest Warning panel finally showed up!

Here’s my first go with it:

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#1142

Sounds great! Especially enjoying the tones you’re getting from 4 minutes on. What are your initial thoughts?

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#1143

My initial thoughts (compared to La Bestia I guess) are:

  • Aboslutely love and prefer the 258’s. They sound incredible and all of the wave shaping is incredible for feedback patching and/or timbral shifts. I was nervous about this decision but have 0 regrets.

  • The way the knobs are laid BELOW the denser patching areas is something I noticed right away. It’s crazy to have so much spaghetti going on but having no troubles to get in there and wiggle!

  • Build and feel is top notch. I need heavy light to be able to see this panel but that’s a disadvantage I’d planned for with my deposit. The aesthetics are worth it and I’m already gaining some muscle memory.

  • The sound and way everything works feels very familiar and I’m not noticing any drastic tonal difference from the R*S system I had, but it’s been awhile since I played one.

  • I was planning to get a second panel for sequencing and effects but it just feels like there’s the perfect amount here so I’m gonna pass for now. I’d like to have a sequencer better than the SQ-1 but it’ll have to do 🥸

Hope that helps! Happy to try and answer anything specific if need be :+1:

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#1144

CGS SSG question for the room:

I’ve just noticed that my CGS92 Ver1.0 board has 2m7 marked where 2m2 is marked here: https://static.miraheze.org/…/99/Cgs_pcb_cgs92v10_ssg.gif

I’m a little confused since they’re supposedly the same PCB version… should I go with 2m2 or 2m7?

#1145

How does the 258 differ from the NTO on the La Bestia? I’m guessing it’s more raw sounding?

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#1146

I think it sounds a little more “classic vintage oscillator” than the NTO. It’s not as “raw electricity” like but also not a night and day difference. I can still easily pull that sound from the DSG/SSG if need be!

I was never a fan of the wave shaping on the NTO personally but I’m absolutely obsessed with it here.

I just found out that the top section of my 258’s is actually the “wave shapers” from the triple wave shaper.

You get this AND the sine to saw or sine to square shaping, both with CV control! I had no idea I’d be getting this function when I bought the panel, so it was a really pleasant surprise.

ESPECIALLY when I found out that you can run external audio into those wave shapers as well. Having the triple wave shaper character AND the triple wave mults under one hood is really something.

The amount of little details Charlie has tucked into this single panel is just astonishing. I’m completely floored :drooling_face:

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#1147

I heard people say the that NTO is pretty clean sounding, probably much less non linearities than a 258. I’m loving the tones i’m getting from my DUSG, SSG and pinged VCFQ, but I still can’t get the tracking to be precise more than about 2 octaves, which isnt terrible, but sometimes it’s a little bit more of a pain to dial in. I still have one foot in euro, I was thinking of picking up another vco to process with Serge stuff, perhaps a Sputnik Oscillator (258 clone) or maybe even a Verbos Foubdation Oscillator, the demos of it sound pretty raw.

I did also see this module by Klavis called Caltrans, which helps extend the tracking of vcos, so that could also be a solution.

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#1148

Yeah! That Verbos oscillator sounds great :+1:

#1149

And the feedback knob.
The panel really does merit a couple deep dive videos online.

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#1150

Truly! It’s works of art.

I really felt like I got more than I bargained for but it’s hard to put into words and features without actually sitting down at the instrument…

#1151

Hello! Here’s an idea for a patch that sounds like birds. It’s a complex feedback patch between the VCFQ, TWS, NCOM and DUSG. Clouds is also playing an important role in creating the different pitches of the bird sounds from the STEP OUT output of NCOM. Erbe-Verb is slowly coming in creating a virtual space for all the birds to “sing” into.

Video:

#1152

I have RS NTO in euro. It’s clean osc but it shines with wave multipliers for sines and triangles, and saw with vcfq and other filters. In comparison I only have Moog 901/921 clones they sound different (more full) but I always put them through c3p mixer which get some color.

NTO is really good with animation and where I love Serge modules. Some basic things like cv variable output can add a lot to the sound palette if you put a zadar complex envelope. I have a great bassline with it. Other modulation is also very usable (thanks for built in attenuators/verters.

Previously I have had Furthrrr Gen which was dirtier but also shines with timbre section. What I really want is a RS left part of Donks which consists 2 LPG and Buchla style timbre section. It gives some extra to NTO

#1153

I actually have the Donks module in 4u. TBH its got some flaws. The vactrols ring really long, like compared to the Easel I used to have. Also the Timbre section doesn’t have the range that my Easel had. I’ve tried a bunch to calibrate it to no avail, and frankly it sounds different than the Easel, it almost distorts like a guitar pedal. Which can be cool, but it’s not the same. Also I don’t think the circuit was adjusted for Serge voltages, it doesn’t fully open with the DUSG, but it actually does with euro stuff, especially with dynamic gate output on the 0-Ctrl. But having a cross fader between the two gate channels and the stereo mixer on the other side makes up for it. If I want a little Buchla flair it’s nice, otherwise I just run it like a four channel mixer.

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