Post of the year! Cracking stuff.

Absolutely gorgeous.

the more I read about chaotic sound synthesis the more I want to work w/ one of these … who has experience w/ analog computing (particularly in conjunction w/ modular music systems)?

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A bit off the Serge topic, but my friend and label-mate Andrea Taeggi made an album on a massive analog computer, and it’s wonderful.

I didn’t know there was an analog computer in Serge format, looks really interesting. Where did you learn about it?

Edit — a little searching told me that I jumped to the conclusion that the image is Serge format, when in fact it’s just an analog computer that happens to be 4U and banana jacks. :slight_smile:

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Just stumbled upon this photo of Serge Tcherepnin experimenting with brainwave music at the Pulsa Harmony Ranch in 1970. Thought some of you might appreciate this piece of pre-modular Serge history.

For more context:

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I keep lusting over this LW panel. Has most things I want from a Serge setup, to get started at least :slight_smile:

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That’s a great panel, you could do so much with it… if one of those 258’s was an NTO, oh man.

Do they sell that panel anywhere?

Give Loudest Warning a shout - but I think the NTO PCBs are the tricky part.

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He builds them to order, and I’ve seen modified versions of it, like this one:

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I may have said this here before but maybe worth reiterating that Charlie (at LW) is an exceptionally nice person and is willing to work with you on whatever you want re: custom panels, individual modules, etc. Definitely worth contacting him if one is at all interested in his work.

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Yes! I have a full custom panel from Charlie, as well as a custom Random*Source format 4x4 module that he built for me. Both of the highest quality.

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Just documenting the current state of my system with a multi-voice patch I really like… what’s cool about lack of linear tracking and having to tune knobs individually is that i’m getting into just intonation, which I should have explored long ago …

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I’ll add another endorsement of Charlie/Loudest Warning. The format suits my incrementalist approach to getting started with Serge because it’s focused on (more or less) single-function modules rather than whole-row panels. It’s very DIY (panels from Charlie; Ken Stone or Stroh PCBs; parts from Tayda/Mouser). Unlike most Random Source DIY, you build the whole thing (which I like doing) rather than just attaching panel hardware to pre-soldered SMT boards (which is OK, but also more costly). It is quite economical; the sale of my 3U NTO paid for several modules-worth of parts. In the end, I bought a Clee boat, but the option is there to use Eurorack-style rails that you might already have on hand. Lastly, Charlie’s very nice to deal with. He, along with Dakota Melin, patiently answered various questions about the format when I was about to get started.

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Charlie LW sorted my CGS sergalike rig out, can recommend! Also, he’s really nice ad knowing that your synth is made or fixed by someone nice is a good vibe.

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finished… on its way!

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brill panel design—please share demo once assimilated if you can, very interested to hear how quad comparator affects sequence generation in real-time.

I got R*S euroserge resonant EQ from Patch Point today and damn it sounded so good. I can’t wait to get back home and hook it up. Playing a bit with the euroserge setup there got me seriously interested in setting up a proper Serge system in the future.

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I think I get the quad comparator. How does the memory cell work?

Not 100% sure until I have this in hand… but the idea is to be able to set outputs either to 0V or to 5V (via “set” and “reset”) or just keep them held. Basically like a flip flop.

This can be very useful for controlling the up/down of a second sequencer, or for turning off and on entire sections of clock pulses by changing a single knob (i.e. when the latch output is “AND”-ed with a clock source.)

Currently I make these “latches” with comparators set in positive feedback with themselves (wrote a post in this above…), giving me a control schema where the high knob positions set the latch to 0V, the low positions set it to 5V, and the middle holds the previous value – but it takes some practice to tune the middle region to where I can get predictable results.

One thing I need to go back and correct is that sometimes the comparator-feedback patch is overly sensitive to abrupt transients and so the control input needs to be smoothed a little with a DSG or pos/neg slew.

so what I anticipate here is that a thing which I use all the time but that I have to patch up already in a complicated manner and with difficulties tuning it, is now made as an explicit ‘module’, that just works. likewise, there will probably be many new applications I haven’t explored, also with the added functionality of these sequencers.

More generally the purpose is to set up multiple sequencers to interact in ways that are themselves controllable via the sequencer knob positions, so that I can turn one knob and melodies/rhythms change fundamentally as the knob crosses a threshold. if the knob is mapped to some sound parameter, say filter cutoff, the effect is to build up a tension, then have the entire system reach a “tipping point”, then change irreversibly as a release in that tension. although this “analytic” itself misses the big picture, and is not really how i think about this…

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cool… very “acid in the style of david tudor” in parts…
you’re really onto something with some of these textures… interesting to see where this goes

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