#879

Fascinating. Great job breaking it down and demonstrating. If I could suggest trying to turn off auto-focus in the future? If you’re using an iphone, do a long press on the display of your intended target and the focus will stay there vs. changing when your hands enter the frame.

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#880

Your videos led to me getting a copy of Cybernetics then quickly realizing that this stuff only makes sense to me in the context of Serge modular :smiley:

If anyone needs a copy of Cybernetics, hit me up…

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#881

Every time I hear the mention of Cybernetics I keep thinking of Tom Cruise and L. Ron Hubbard… :wink: No but for real, these videos are super cool. I’m a recent Serge convert and I’m super fascinated by this stuff.

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#882

welcome to lines!
I’ve already posted your cybernetic studies I & II some posts above…
great work!

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#883

An interesting solution!

So from my experience with my BOG I sometimes use the staircase out. As you stated the subharmonic relates to the frequency of the oscillator. Its relationship can be set with a trimpot on the PCB. It doesn’t track the whole range of the oscillator. Timbrally it is pretty much a square wave. I guess it could be nice to have if you only have one oscillator in your system.

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#884

I sold my La Bestia 2 and bought a used Sing-To-Me. Negative regrets, just raves.

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#885

I’m not quite sure I follow that BUT are you saying you prefer the Sing to Me?

#886

Oh, yes. Very much so.

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#887

Excellent! I just placed my deposit today and the panel is ordered :black_heart:

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#888

would love to hear some audio from this if you get a chance! have been talking to charlie about a custom sing to me panel with a res eq instead of the stereo mixer and an asr or full dusg instead of the ring mod. seems like a more fleshed out first serge panel than a mantra or la bestia from my inexperienced pov

#889

charlie seems like such a great guy/LW seems really rad. heard great things. i thought strongly about getting sing to me instead of la bestia for my first panel but in the end the audiophile components/serge’s direct involvement and the fact that the NTO is part of the serge ecosystem and of course the 258 is not won out. surely its a “cant go wrong” comparing the panels, i just knew i wanted to embark on a capital S serge system rather than a cross format 4u experience. luckily for me i love how the NTO sounds, the clinical stability and power of it. all this said, i could def see getting some kind of 4u processing panel from charlie down the road :slight_smile:

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#890

I’m thinking about getting an NTO. They are super clean sounding? I’ve got mostly 4u but some euro as well still. Using the DUSG with pretty good results, just wanted one dedicated vco. I’m kinda wondering if the NTO is worth the effort to search one out or build in 4u, or if I should just pick up a Make Noise STO in euro for that duty. I had one before I remembered they were pretty clean and stable.

#891

Yeah. I love my La Bestia II, and the NTO sounds great and is really flexible. I also loved my LW panel with the dual 258s… definitely not a one-is-better experience.

One nice thing about LW’s treatment of Buchla or other circuits, is that he tends to treat them in a Serge-like way, opening up more patch points and CV flexibility.

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#892

Oh, I have a lot of stuff out there!

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/churlishbeardo/videos
Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/syncretism
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/boswells.johnson

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#893

Years ago I acquired a couple Serge panels, including 3 set Black Serge panels — Quicksand, Black Swamp, and Okefenokee (edit: added photos below).

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The person I bought them from also threw in this COA #7 VCO Panel

Now, looking at the 3 Black Serge panels I have a pretty decent idea of how they all kind of fit together (individually or separately).

But this is COA #7 panel is kind of mystifying me… and there’s doesn’t seem to be a lot of info out there on it. 4 x VCOs, filter, triple comparator, and an ADSR? I’m having a hard time picturing “how to music” with it in a useful way, unlike the other panels. Not sure if it’s worth my time to build it up.

Any Serge experts have any ideas or opinions on this panel? How useful is it really? (Either within the context of the 3 black Serge panels, which seem pretty useful overall, or in the context of another panel). Feeling baffled.

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#894

A lot of those COA panels feel like they’re designed to fill holes in larger systems. The module selection can be puzzling at times, but they seem pretty useful as, well, let’s call them “fourth panels.”

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#895

It’s a bit esoteric, but I could see using it as a strange complete synth voice … 3 oscillators into the comparator to make strange waveforms, the fourth to modulate and a filter to tie it together? with the SWAMP you already have you can trigger the envelope …

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#896

If only one of those VCOs were a three-channel mixer.

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#897

Thanks for the insight, @niall and @emenel much appreciated (yes a mixer would be nice on that!). I think I’ll just stick with the set of three for now and see what else would be useful after that :slight_smile:

#898

the right side of edelweiss doesnt seem super necessary to me for my practice (mostly interested in drones).

The Vintage Voltron 6 has a lot going for it, if you can find one. Actually, I think Elby’s revisited it, and the results look very promising indeed.

Though the Elby Serge slope generators’ controls are the inverse of modern STS/R*S/LW, in my experience; they control time, rather than rate. I’ve never built a panel from scratch, so I don’t know how trivial this is to address from the jump.